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By: Da Sissop
Date: 2/1/98 10:49:05 PM
# Replies: 78
So whaddaya think, is there really justification for another military strike against Iraq, or is it just *convenient* that Saddam & company
decided to make some waves at a time when a presidential scandal was unfolding?
If I understand it correctly (and I may not), Iraq's complaint was with the composition of the inspection teams. Their position was that there were too many Americans, or the Americans were spies, or somesuch. So the inspection teams just pulled out. Seems to me like we could *call* them on this before launching a military strike. Vary the U.N. inspection teams, and see if Iraq will grant *them* full access.
Now I also understand that our position is that Iraq cannot dictate the composition of the inspection teams, and I agree with this, but I don't think it's too much of a concession to test them on this before we commit our troops to combat. If Iraq still refuses, we're much more likely to have international support, and if they accept it, then we can periodically mix up the teams so that we can still slip our American spies in every so often.
Piece of cake.
Response #1
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 2/2/98 12:07:11 AM
What sort of war would that be?
"We declare war on you, because you won't let us look at your weapons." That's like saying, "I'm going to beat this dog until it bites me, because it won't let me look at its teeth."
Response #2
By: Gowan McGland
Date: 2/2/98 11:10:33 AM
The way I understand it is that with the team composition set to mirror the UN Security Counsel, the most experienced inspectors (Americans) won't be included in the teams in large enough numbers.
So, you'll have the Swedes or the French rummaging around. The picture we're given is something like this:
Frenchie: "Hello, you there. Ess theese And we just can't have that.
Response #3 it simple the UN tells them what sites they want to visit and all those they can't get blown up real good...I really wish we could put these international crises behind us so that Clinton can get back to banging chicks... Response #4 ya know... clinton just can't win... if he doesn't do anything about saddam's playtoys, he looks ineffective (nare I say IMPOTENT?) and saddam and every other dipshit with a diaper for a headdress get the idea that they can do any damned thing they want and get away with it.
On the other hand, if he DOES do something he looks as if he's beating up on this tiny little country to take the heat off his love life. so whats to do? damned good question. looks like he's going to HAVE to go for the bully rap to maintain stability in the region. but getting the rest of the world behind him is going to be tough because he DOES look like a bully, and nobody wants to look like a bully. if he doesn't do this then his and america's credibility with saudi, israel, kuwait, and even iran is shot to hell. iran is beginning to take a softer line on the west mainly because we have shown we will not take their shit. but if we let saddam off the hook, then the radicals that still have a big say in the way iran is run will start chanting again.
also, if we take saddam out, then there will be a power vaccuum. the batah party is full of yes men because saddam has KILLED the rest. who'd take over for him? obviously nobody from the batah party. the majority of iraq is shiite as is iran. taking out saddam could have the unwanted effect of making iran and iraq good buddies, which could have ALL KINDS of implications for instability in the region. Response #5 On a completely different note, I LOVE your graphic Fang. Nice work. Response #6 anybody hear about the new bombs that the air farce has been developing since the last go-round? they are a variation on the Durandal runway bombs. they are a laser guided bomb with a rocket motor attached and a fuse with a acellerometer (sp?) connected to a counter. it counts how many slabs of concrete it goes through before it triggers the explosives. fifth floor, toys, houswares, dictator's bunker.... they also have another bunker buster that is an incendiary device. it is filled with rocket fuel and burns so hot that it slags down any chemical or biological weapons that may be in the bunker Response #7 Good thing the Marines are too busy to mess with that, bein' as they're knockin' down cable cars for the Swiss.
That would bug me, were I the type to ride in a cable car. Response #8 It just occurred to me that I lived in the bay area for 6 months and never rode a cable car.
helas. Response #9 Back to the original point, looks like things are well down the garden path and it should start raining steel soon. anybody want to start a pool on WHEN hostilities will start? my vote feb 26th... long about 8 pm local time.... any takers? Response #10 Nah, cuz you'll just up and START something to win the pool. Response #11 Monday Feb 23rd, 12:01 a.m. Baghdad time.
The Olympic torch will have been extinguished, but it will still be warm. Response #12 cool... I voted for the 26th because thats the first day of the new moon... should be pretty dark (the stealth boys 'll like that...) Response #13 I think it'll be just after lunch so they can catching them taking a siesta....that classic San Jacinto strategy always works.....
Remember the Alamo Rental Car! Response #14 I predict that the two armies will clash in the middle of the desert, but in a terrible tragedy of biological experimentation, both armies will be eaten by giant sandworms developed by the Iraqis. Response #15 Hmm. So this whole fuss over inspecting their "palaces" could just be a diversion, to draw our attention away from the desert, so they can deploy the giant sandworms.
"Nor will we allow your inspectors into our... uh, RETIREMENT COMMUNITIES! Don't even THINK about inspecting THOSE, Great Satan. Our retirement communities are SOVEREIGN. Just like our Palaces, and our... uh, WAL-MARTS!" Response #16 Ummm... Let's see... The square root of Nostradamus
Odd...
According to this, it happened last week.
Response #17 Now in the cosmology surrounding the Great Satan, is Texas in the 4th concentric ring of Hell or the 5th? Response #18 third... were BIGGER now.... Response #19 an idea broached over the weekend to solve numerous US problems such as: over crowded prisons, illegal immigration, patchuli reeking mud hippies, and other social blights
Stick em all on c10s and ship them off without their passports to Iraq
comments, suggestions? Response #20 any of yall hear about Russia's sudden disclosure that they have developed a genetically engineered anthrax that is immune to the vaccines currently in use? anybody wanna bet that this was done because some russian felt guilty for giving it to saddam? currently the french, the russians and the chinese are against the conflict. COINCIDENTALLY guess who has the biggest economic deals in Iraq right now? any bets as to the country of origin of saddam's little arsenals?
the french sold him a fast breeder reactor that was busily making plutonium before the israeli's bombed it. the russian's have been building lots of petrochemical facilities there, not alot of difference between a petrochemical plant and a nerve agent plant......
the chinese have sold silkworm and scud missiles, wonder what else in that vein they have sold for hard currency and oil. Response #21 Oooooooo yes, it MUST be true that Iraq is all scary and shit... Never mind that every country with even a little money is just as well-equipped. I say we should fear LUXEMBURG! They're closer to the US, you know.
Being a part-time hippie, I recommend we send out-of-work loggers, Republicans, and border guards in that c10. And Ralph Nader, too, if he doesn't get a sense of humor soon.
Response #22 "Geev us your burly, your wealthy, your consumer advocates yearning to breathe anthrax." Response #23 Jay:
Yea, we're at least the 3rd now...I mean, Ft. Hood is right here. Response #24 Happiness is a Belt Fed Weapon Response #25 happiness is a weapon of mass destruction.... dont believe me? ask saddam..... Response #26 What exactly constitutes a "weapon of mass destruction"?
I know nukes are, and prolly biowar too...
But is a shotgun? Fuel/fertilizer bombs?
Roach poison? Response #27 Well, going purely on 'definition' using the fraze 'weapon of mass destruction'...wouldn't a liposuction machine count? Response #28 generally speaking, the terms "weapons of mass destriction" mean one of three things, nuclear, chemical, and germ weapons. It is the US policy that if one of these weapons is used on our troops then we will retaliate with one of our own. since the US does not have the latter two by treaty, it works out to be a germ = a gas = a nuke. so anyone who sprays antrax into a vent buys themselves a nuke in exchange. Response #29
Fertilizer Bombs, if large enough, are considered Weapons of Mass Destruction.
Just ask Timothy McVeigh. (not the AOL guy, the Militia OKCity guy)
Response #30 If you disrupt a Catholic service with smoke bombs, is that...? Response #31 if it were an anglican service, that would make you Malcom McDowell.
(obscure movie reference. pay me no mind.) Response #32 Man who fart in church sit in own pew...but man who take fireworks to church going to hell on a greased rail.
-Zane Response #33 speaking of spraying antrax in a vent anybody hear about those two white supremacists that got caught in vegas trying to do the very same in a hospital? Response #34 I'll like their excuse - "we were making an innoculation to protect the folks in the US againsts Iraqi disease laden rats that Saddam is going to drop all over the country if the US attacks Iraq."
Response #35 It's "anthrax", for the record. Response #36 oops, fat fingers.... Response #37 I find myself rather reticent to ride the train lately, given typos and other miscommunications...
(the preceeding is a joke grenade. look here for clues.) Response #38 Man, maybe Tipper was right!
If those dudes in Nevada got picked up for having tapes of an 80's metal band in the back of their car, that stuff MUST have been bad for you!
Response #39 man, no wonder AMTRAK is going broke! even their SERVER is slow.... Response #40 "Anthrax. It's not just for cattle anymore." Response #41 I can see the "Got Anthrax?" commercials now... course with the speed of the disease, you'd really have to saturate the airwaves...... Response #42
Turns out the anthrax these guys had was the NON-Lethal type.
Instead, it just makes you amazingly, deliriously sick.
Response #43 actually, no it was a live but inactivated form that is used in vaccines. it can replicate but it has been genetically altered so it can't make you sick. just like the guy said. but they are keeping one of him because by claiming he had anthrax to the informant he technically violated his parole
Response #44 Oh INACTIVE anthrax.
You mean like the kind I put in the breadmaker instead of yeast? Response #45 Those guys looked like they just got through hanging out with their Republic of Texas friends out West.
White supremacists are so embarassing to the Caucasian race. Response #46 True, probably no more embarrasing than some of the anti-abortion people are to the rest of christianity and or republicanisim. every group has it's nutcases. and yes INactive, as in the live virus smallpox and polio vaccines. you see, if you innoculate with a dead virus to get a decent immune system response you either have to give HUGE doses, or lots of doses over an extended period of time because the only protiens the immune system can learn from are the ones you inject and they get inactivated as the immune system responds to them.
but if you give a genetically altered germ to a person then the germ can replicate and there will be more proteins for the immune system to learn from before the vaccine is destroyed by the body. so if you can make a germ that has all the same proteins on its surface as the real thing and can replicate but not make you sick (or maybe nothing more than some aches and pains and sniffles for a couple of days) then you got it made. Response #47 Can I innoculate myself against white supremests? Response #48 Sure, Ralfdear, but you'd have to be injected with one.
And I thought you were straight, anyway. Response #49 [queasy thinking about it]
Uh, I guess I'll take my chances. Response #50 Hey, I'm closer to Ft Hood than you guys are!
White Supremeicts...Giving new meaning to put up your Dukes! Response #51 DUKE DUKE DUKE DUKE DUKE DUKE
whatever happened to Rasco? I know Boss Hogg died a coupla years ago Response #52 Uncle Jesse dies just a couple of months ago.
I think the General Lee did it. You he and K.I.T.T. had a thing going. Response #53 Never trust a Dodge Response #54 I've always thought of them as fairly honest and straight forward.... after all, they place a big warning to pedestrians right on the hood.... Response #55 Never trust a car with a visable skid plate! They're up to no good I tell ya! Response #56 Particularly a Teflon(tm)-coated skid plate.
"InZane Industries Inc. would like to present...The George Foreman Pedestrian Grill 2000...turns road kill into a quick, low-fat meal in just a few feet. Order now and get the 'Greensleeves Pedestrian Lure' attatchment for your car alarm speaker absolutely free!" Response #57 Ever feel like your head is a knuckle, and occasionally someone will come along and just *POP* it for you? Response #58 I felt that way yesterday, but maybe it's becaus I found myself at Schlitterbahn with five Boy Scouts. Response #59 Geezus... I think I'll go masterbate now. Response #60 Sooz, I thought the porn discussion was in the OTHER thread? Response #61 I think Loki and Zane should be in the same room together sometime, with a case of the alcoholic beverage of their choice.
And some sort of recording device. Response #62 And a button they could push, which would either dispense a piece of cheese or give them a nasty electric shock. Response #63 Mmmmm... Cheese.
-**ZOT**-
Ow!
Mmmmm... Voltage to the forebrain...
[Ka-chunk!]
Velveeta? Awww, man... Response #64 Ooo look!
A Velveeta curd! Response #65 Velveeta is NOT cheese...it's a byproduct of Pakistani nuclear testing. Ever notice it doesn't actually 'go bad'..it just dries up. Kind of like grout, concrete, spackle, and filler putty. That reminds me, with summer here I need to run a bead of Velveeta around my front door.
[Zane pushes a button]
ZZZZzzztttt!
[...and welds his glasses to his face]
Response #66 Velveeta...
Cheese the gov wouldn't even buy! Response #67 Velveeta is ten different cheeses rolled into one shelf stable block...
it does make the best bed-time rub down lotion when microwaved to the proper temp.... Response #68 Velveeta is NOT cheese. It's a genetically engineered advanced form of lima been. Kinda like peanut butter with food coloring. Response #69 Velveeta is vegitarian Spam. Response #70 Velveeta green is People! Response #71 I thought spam came from the wild spamalopes... Maybe I shouldn't be relying on Gary Larson for my scientific data... Response #72 While the popular nomenclature for folks to beive is Spoiled Ham, it's actually Spiced Ham. Response #73 Wrong. It's dug up from huge underground Spam-mines.
[Cut to: huge pulsating veins of petroSpam; quivering pink walls stripped by whirring blades; teams of filthy, hard-hatted men riding a low-slung cart, the driver waves jauntily as they pass]
Response #74 Sprite:
On the contrary...Gary Larson should be used for *most* of your scientific data..it should be up to the real world imperical evidence to prove him wrong.
Ralf:
petroSpam condensed in towers yeilds 78% Spam...10% Potted Meat...and 2% Silly Putty.
Handy Tip from Uncle Zane:
Never keep raw silly putty in your pocket...there is a *reason* it comes in a portable biological containment unit. Trust me on this one.. Response #75 I just want the kind of Silly Putty they use on that Dodge commercial.
That would be great on acid trips! Response #76 *I* just wish that they still used the old style ink in newspapers... tried to lift a pic off of the sunday comics for my little girl the other day and it didn't work.. damned enviromentalists..... Response #77 The Public News should still be good for that sorta thing. 'Course I dunno if you wanna be lifting gay phone sex ads for your daughter, but still.... Response #78 tru nuff.... especially since she's learning how to dial the phone right now....
By: Jay
Date: 2/2/98 11:50:30 AM
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Date: 2/2/98 3:51:51 PM
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Date: 2/13/98 1:44:19 AM
times Armageddon over Apocalypse plus the Estimated Mean
Prophet.... allow for the Edgar Caycee coefficient...
... and add in the price of gas.
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Date: 2/13/98 11:09:14 AM
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