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By: sooz
Date: 3/30/98 5:59:46 PM
# Replies: 26
Yes, that deal where the two kids shot their schoolmates is a horrible tragedy.
But does anyone else think, in a sick and twisted little way, that it's a tiny bit funny that one of the assailants is the child of TWO (not one, but TWO) postmasters at local Post Offices?
Response #1
By: Cleotis
Date: 3/30/98 7:17:30 PM
My dad was a postmaster, and worked for USPS for 26 years before retiring.
Dad is a very compliant personality, so he fit in perfectly with a "sort and ship" kind of job. However, the rules are SO stringent there, and many of the guys in command run little nazi regimes trying to improve efficiency. If you're not the right personality type for that job, then I can see - for sure - how that job could drive a man insane. Same thing, day in, day out. It takes a person "wired" the right way to tolerate that repetition. Dad did it for 26 years with not so much as a sick day in as many years. He retired with almost 4 years of accrued sick time.
Yeah, USPS is a bad scene if you're not cut out for it.
With all they know about personality types and such these days, there should be some SERIOUS psychological evaluations that take place before they hire you. They do that for firemen, and while delivering letters isn't as crucial as putting out fires, they're still government organizations. There needs to be some kinda test. If you're not the right personality type, you don't get in.
...See, I'm authorized to say such things 'cuz of my dad and all...
Response #2
By: Zanda
Date: 3/30/98 11:39:44 PM
Huh, I did not know that...I do think that is a bit odd though. I just can not imagine the anguish that those families are feeling. Esp. since the teacher was pregnant. I think finally we have found a hero. Not a movie star that struggles with alcoholism, or the hard luck of people reconizing them for the rest of their lives. But a woman that was willing to put herself in the line of fire for a child. I cannot say that I would have done the same when I was pregnant with my son.
I saw an interview with the 2 boys grandparents. Every video that they showed of the little boy he had a gun in his hand. Not that I think knowing how to use a gun makes you a killer or a psycho. I just thought that was interesting. In the same show they were saying the reason that this seems to be happening on a regular basis is because kids today do not know how to express anger. (prepare for a rant)
I think that a lot of it is parents faults. Not all of it, but a lot of it. We as a society have become so politically correct that we are not "allowed" to teach our kids right from wrong. You can't tell them no anymore, I have a 7 month old son and I read a lot of child raising books. And, you have to be so careful around them. I dont know what the answer is. But it is not only these shootings. I read in the paper about a boy raping a 4 year old girl. I wish I knew what the answer is. Because none of us think that our children would do this. But how do you know? I think I would die if I was one of those boys mothers.
Response #3
By: Da Sissop
Date: 3/31/98 12:19:57 AM
I blame the kids for being emotionally disturbed. I blame the parents for letting their kids have access to a bunch of guns, and either contributing to the emotional disturbances or failing to notice it. I blame the media for glorifying violence. I blame society in general for its deteriorating moral values. I blame ID software. I blame Nintendo. And Marilyn Manson.
It's a foul, ugly world in a lot of ways. And the only thing that will make it better is if we (parents, and citizens) pay attention to our kids. Take an interest in their lives, and try to set a good example.
Oh, excuse me... HEY YOU LITTLE BASTARDS! GET OFFA MY LAWN!
Response #4
By: Jay
Date: 3/31/98 10:18:02 AM
I heard those kids who got popped were somehow involved in the whole White Water thing. A preliminary investigation showed that the shooters received over $10,000 each from rigged guest appearances on the Childrens episode of Wheel of Fortune. The money was donated to the show by an Arkansas baitshop visited by the kids grandfather and James Carviles uncle. This money was then laundered back through the baitshop and converted into 38 pounds of night crawlers which the boys then sold for $750,000 across the state line in Memphis at a place called Tippers Pole and Bait. $350, over 300,000 rounds of amunition, and 42 issues ofthe Paula Jones Penthouse were found in the kids stolen van. The rest of the money vanished, presumely into the grandfathers moonshining operations, used to perchase anti-revenuer traps for around the stills hid deep in the hills around White Water.
The "kids" who were shot were actually a team of ATF midgets sent by rouge elements within the agency who owe their allegences to the Rotchilds. The Rotchilds of course control the huge multi-national Hennesy who feared upstart American moonshiners would challenge their commercial dominance in the world liquor markets. They sent the midget death squad into Arkansas to eliminate the shiners and to find a way to discredit their protector - Bill Clinton.
Right before the fatal firealarm sounded elements of the group had just competed an Earth Day project showing crying animals being burned out of their forest homeland by Housing Developers lead by President Clinton. If this had failed their next step was to sit on eachothers shoulders, approximating a normal adults height, wear a huge floral print MuMu and try to lure the President into groping them, then have him charged with pediphile assault on a child that is not a relative - a felony in Arkansas.
The "teacher" was their ZOG handler. She was hit while trying to usher the midgets to a waiting black helicopter kept for such emergencies in the metal shop.
Response #5
By: sooz
Date: 3/31/98 5:47:07 PM
My dad worked for the post office as a personnel supervisor. You know, hired and fired.
Then he quit and became a preacher.
I'm sure that all means something.
Ignore all the books that tell you you can't tell your child "no", and you have to walk on eggshells around them. Kids (and adults) need/want boundaries, just so they know what's cool and what's not. You know, a little black and white in life.
Besides... in a few years, new books will come along and say "oops, we were wrong before. NOW, do THIS..."
Response #6
By: Ralf
Date: 3/31/98 6:48:29 PM
I like what Jimfang said. He's right, you know.
Response #7
By: Gowan McGland
Date: 3/31/98 8:05:00 PM
Yeah, those damn kids are still on my lawn...
Response #8
By: Zanda
Date: 3/31/98 10:54:26 PM
Well, honestly as a new mother, it is hard to know what to do some times. And, I have this nuerotic fear htat if I do not do things right that he will be the next Manson(either one of them). So, I just try to do the best that I know how...I guess that is all that you can do. I spend time with him and play with him, but he doesnt run the house wither...not like the first few months anyway..
Response #9
By: sooz
Date: 4/1/98 3:26:52 PM
Sounds like yer doin' just fine, then. He'll probably be a fine, balanced person.
Unlike the rest of the people here.
Response #10
By: Zipperhead
Date: 4/1/98 3:34:45 PM
Zanda, as a father of 2 that grew up just fine. I see a lot of what we tried to do. sooz is right. You do the best you can. Cause thats all you can do. Sounds to me like your kids got a great mom! Oh, as for that first sentence I forgot about the Boyfriendless twit, so 1 out of 2 aint bad.....Kathleen!!! You know Im just kidding. Yeah Zanda if ya just do your best and are there for them you end up with a great kid like Kathy!!!!!! (this type of message will not happen again)
Response #11
By: Kathy
Date: 4/1/98 8:58:41 PM
I need to print that one...
Hey - I think my mother worked for the postal service at one time. Is this true??? Should we be worried?
and don't forget - my brother has not had a girlfriend in about 5 years. I haven't have a boyfriend for 3 months... so if that is your criteria, you got 0 outta 2.
Response #12
By: Zanda
Date: 4/2/98 12:46:07 AM
Ahhh...I can feel the family bonding...
Response #13
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 4/2/98 7:58:51 PM
Crazy Glue® is not an acceptable substitute for family counselling.
Response #14
By: Zanda
Date: 4/2/98 10:01:21 PM
Hey these days you do whatever works...
Response #15
By: rorschach
Date: 4/3/98 12:41:11 PM
Ya know, when I was a pup, sure we didn't have grizzly slayings being displayed in our favorite sitcoms like we do today, but we still had our own brand of violence, hey in my early years there was news stories from vietnam, later, there were computer games which the goal was to kill everything in sight, granted, the technology wasn't such that you could actually SHOW the brains being splattered on the walls but hey, thats what imagination was for. when we were kids I remember playing "war" with all the other guys in the neighborhood... all but one are fine upstanding (well, relatively speaking....) adults now (ok, one ended up doing a stint in prison cuz he liked a 15 year old a bit more than the law allows... not exactly a VIOLENT crime though......) I do not feel the urge to get an arsenal and go blow a school away, never did.... bottom line is, it is the PARENTING STUPID! to paraphrase a bit... if you do your best to show your kid that you care about them and show them right from wrong and make them understand that there are CONSEQUENCES for doing wrong then you got most of the problem tackled already, but it has to be consistant as well, don't tell them not to steal then eat the grapes in the grocery store before you pay for em....... dont tell em not to lie then get on the phone and fib about why you can't come to a party.... you have to play by the rules too!
Response #16
By: Cleotis
Date: 4/3/98 8:26:46 PM
Ror, your posts are insightful, intelligent, and a welcomed addition to my browser window.
But why do you have to make them so dang hard to read?
Punctuation, paragraphs, and capitalization rules are wonderful things! Embrace them, my child!
Response #17
By: rorschach
Date: 4/4/98 10:05:27 AM
BAH! who needs language skills? sorry cleo, I know my drivel is often somewhat hard to digest. Its a stream of concious kinda thing tho. If I go back to edit it to clean it up or if I slow down and try to make clear sentence paragraph structures, then I often either loose my train of thought or change the original thought completely. its sorta like taking a test in school, they tell you not to go back and double check your answers, usually your intuition was right the first time and thinking just screws it up.
REFUSE TO THINK!
Response #18
By: Ralf
Date: 4/4/98 6:01:32 PM
So employ post-editing procedures. Even assembly language compilers make second passes...
Response #19
By: sooz
Date: 4/5/98 10:37:26 PM
Don't edit when you're done, Ror. Just hit return every few sentences.
See? It helps break it up.
Love and kisses, Susan
Response #20
By: Da Sissop
Date: 4/5/98 11:52:02 PM
Yeah,
what
she
said...
Response #21
By: rorschach
Date: 4/6/98 3:49:03 PM
I'll TRY to be a little clearer from now on....
Geez...
Response #22
By: Zipperhead
Date: 4/7/98 9:18:45 AM
Oh my, Kathy your right...Your mom was a Mailman...Uh Oh,,,,,Im outta here.....
Response #23
By: Ralf
Date: 4/7/98 7:27:40 PM
Then there's such a thing as TOO MUCH punctuation.
Response #24
By: Loki
Date: 4/8/98 1:03:37 AM
What,!the@hell-are#you^talking(about???!!!!! +here_is`no~such[thing]as{too}much:punctuation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Response #25
By: sooz
Date: 4/8/98 1:20:33 PM
I think we should all make better use of "special characters." (I'm being parenthetical now, see?)
How many can *YOU* use in a sentence?
Response #26
By: Mycroft
Date: 4/8/98 6:05:27 PM
Yet again, we seem destined to head over to:
CHeW ON TH1S B1tCH!!!!!1!!!11221!222@@@11##12!!!!!!!
"Maximillian, we are going THROUGH!"