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By: Hijinx
Date: 9/5/98 2:43:42 AM
# Replies: 37
My ass is back....I truly hoped I was missed, but the way I figure it, you guys probably never noticed. Or maybe you all sat around going "Where is that fat bastard?" Well, I've been working all summer as a driving instructor. Lots of stories there. But I figured I'd give everybody that knows me the oppurtunity to fill me in on all that I have missed and if you don't know me, well...you are more than welcome to add in your two cents.
Oh, and now me and the wife have a computer in the home.
Oh, and now we no longer live in Murfreesboro. Now we live in Nashville. A lot closer to Cleo. I personally think he is sick of seeing my sorry self...well, Mikey, get used to it!
Response #1
By: Cleotis
Date: 9/7/98 12:22:39 AM
"Hiatus" is a funny word.
Response #2
By: Ralf
Date: 9/7/98 8:02:28 AM
In what sense?
Response #3
By: Da Sissop
Date: 9/7/98 8:44:48 AM
As a general rule of comedy, words that end in "us" are funnier than most others.
Welcome back, Hijinx!
Response #4
By: sooz
Date: 9/7/98 10:13:59 PM
Peen-us.
Like that?
Response #5
By: Da Sissop
Date: 9/7/98 10:22:00 PM
Exactly! And "an-us", and "fla-tus"... oh my aching sides!
Response #6
By: Gowan McGland
Date: 9/8/98 12:36:41 AM
righteous?
torturous?
Response #7
By: Ralf
Date: 9/8/98 7:25:21 AM
Us Festival?
Response #8
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 9/11/98 2:11:39 AM
I can see who's been reading Wired magazine...
Response #9
By: Ralf
Date: 9/11/98 8:52:58 AM
Exsqueeze me?
Response #10
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 9/12/98 7:31:51 PM
Cover article on Woz.
Response #11
By: Ralf
Date: 9/13/98 1:42:27 AM
Ah.
Response #12
By: rorschach
Date: 9/13/98 9:52:24 PM
why do i get the feeling the centerfold was of a apple II motherboard...
Response #13
By: Ralf
Date: 9/14/98 12:27:36 AM
True, the WIRED editorial team are a pack of stinking Mac huggers, but they actually do a credible job at presenting a balanced view.
They're often critical of Woz & Jobs, and Apple in general. It's the same kind of love/hate relationship CloneHeads have with Microsoft & Intel.
There was no Apple-II worship this time.
However, how do you explain the recent iMac frenzy? It's a freekin low-end toy compared with recent Intel iron, yet they charge $1200 retail for it! Is a cool looking plastic case justification enough?
Response #14
By: Hijinx
Date: 9/14/98 12:49:19 AM
hey...what about me?
Response #15
By: Gowan McGland
Date: 9/14/98 2:24:14 PM
IMacs. I dunno.
They're supposed to be speedy processors and easy to use, but I understand that they don't use any of the standard Mac connectors. It uses USB instead of serial and from what I saw on some computer show yesterday, even the MICROPHONE connector is different. Not much fun if you're moving from an old Mac to the new IMac.
Oh, sure, they have ADAPTERS. Why, the mike adapter is ONLY $30!
Apparently, there's a well publicized internet connection bug, as well. Not that Winderz doesn't have it's share of bugs.
Response #16
By: The Sorcerer
Date: 9/15/98 1:42:50 AM
But...but...they look like something off of "Jason of Star Command".
Response #17
By: The Sorcerer
Date: 9/15/98 2:09:09 AM
Ralf Sez:
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They're often critical of Woz & Jobs, and Apple in general. It's the same kind of love/hate relationship CloneHeads have with
Microsoft & Intel.
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Well...almost the same, because Bill Gates actually *IS* The One True EVIL(tm).
Sorc'(Rev)
Response #18
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 9/15/98 3:16:57 AM
Actually, the iMac CREAMS intel iron. :-)
I want an iMac for one reason and one reason only: To get the cool mouse it has. It's this little round puck that is really comfortable and useful. Plus the ball inside is two-tone, and it strobes through the clear apple logo on the top. Tres chic.
It's basically a really snazzy net terminal, as well as a marketing test balloon.
Response #19
By: rorschach
Date: 9/15/98 12:34:34 PM
what ABOUT you Hijinx?
Bill Gates may be the one true EVIL, but Steve Jobs is his right hand man.... after all he's they guy who still envisioned the mac and the NeXt machine in grey scale.....AND the guy that killed the MAC platform for good when he revoked all the lisences to build MAC clones.... where would the computing world be today if it were not for openly cloned systems? the same place we were back in 1982 when every single manufacturer made mutually incompatable machines.
Response #20
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 9/15/98 11:20:29 PM
Gates and Jobs are pals.
Jobs, however, is smart enough to be image conscious.
The Mac platform isn't dead; it has it's market, and that's where it is. You have Apple confused with Microsoft, who will not stop, ever, until you are dead.
Response #21
By: Ralf
Date: 9/15/98 11:37:51 PM
Sorry Homey... you've fallen victim to some Apple PR.
The following comes from the Sept 8th WinInfo newsletter, a kind of Microsoft/Intel watchdog group, very balanced in their editorials. Paul Thurrott, the editor, actually uses MacIntoshes in his office as well as PC clones.
(Quick summary: Apple used an out-of-date benchmark in their iMac comparisons. The iMac couldn't even keep up with low-end Intel chips in real-world testing.)
-- Low-end Celeron systems out-perform iMac
I feel that I should preface this story with a short note: My earlier iMac opinion pieces generated a lot of mail from the Mac community because of my criticisms of the system. This particular story, however, is not an opinion piece, but is rather based on statistical evidence provided by PC Magazine's technical director, Nick Stam, and PC Labs. One thing that gets lost in some of my Apple stories is the admiration I have for the company and its engineers. One thing you should understand, however, is my loathing of that company's advertisements, which are, of course, more than a little misleading. You may have seen a recent iMac ad claiming that the new 233 MHz G3-based iMac was "faster than a Pentium II 400."
Not surprisingly, this isn't true.
What is surprising, however, is that PCs based on the low-end Celeron 333 actually out-perform the iMac. According to Nick Stam, the ByteMark performance benchmark that Apple quotes is compiler-dependent. When Apple performed its own tests, it used a compiler that was optimized for the G3 CPU used in the iMac, but used an outdated Intel compiler that was optimized for a 486 CPU when it performed the benchmark on a PC. At PC Labs, Stam compiled the exact same benchmark, but this time optimized it for the Pentium II (P6) line of processors.
The results, shall we say, will not please iMac fans.
Not only did a 400 MHz Pentium II toast the iMac (to use Apple marketing terminology), a lowly 333 MHz Celeron processor performed a full 50% faster than the iMac as well. The system tested, incidentally, was a $1400 Dell desktop, with roughly identical specs to an iMac (it was the slowest Dell they could get). Even the PII 400 was down-graded to make it more closely resemble the iMac.
The application benchmarks offer the final nail in the coffin.
Stam ran over 30 applications on both systems, including PhotoShop, Claris Works, Microsoft Excel, FileMaker Pro, Microsoft Word, and even the game Quake. In over 90% of the tests, the Dell Celeron outperformed the iMac.
And to put the iMac vs. PII 400 issue to rest, the Pentium II 400 doubled the performance of the iMac when the benchmark was actually tuned for the right chip. So much for that claim.
Remember, however, that the iMac is a low-end machine, Apple's first in years, so one should expect it to perform with the big boys. The only thing confusing about the whole issue is that Apple would choose to deliberately mislead the public about the machine. If they had just been honest about it, no one would have said a thing.
If you're interested in this information, please check out the PC Magazine Web site for the full details. They have an iMac First Look article at:
http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/firstlooks/9808/f980828a.html
Response #22
By: sooz
Date: 9/16/98 9:41:46 AM
Homey sez:
You have Apple confused with Microsoft, who will not stop, ever, until you are dead. =============================================== More horsehit. Without Apple, Microsoft's guilty of a monopoly. Microsoft needs Apple. Didn't Microsoft bail Apple out of a big financial crisis?
Response #23
By: rorschach
Date: 9/16/98 12:33:05 PM
yes, in fact microsoft OWNS 25% of apple..... so in reality they DO have a monopoly. but you know, the API calls to win 95/98 are published. the system bios is openly cloneable, even the chips themselves are openly cloned. the market THRIVES because of the competition. EVERY TOM DICK AND HAIRY ASSHOLE can build a fireball of a machine from cloned parts and not buy a single part from intel. apple's market is steadly shrinking in a time when more computers are sold per year than television sets. THAT is reality. even if apple were to maintain thier current market, standing still equals shrinking when the other guys are making the kinds of gains that they currently are.
Response #24
By: Cleotis
Date: 9/16/98 9:59:55 PM
Hey! This is rude.
Hijinx goes and starts a thread about himself, and you guys start talking about computers and stuff.
What about Hijinx?
I happen to know that his new P2-333 is much faster than, say, an Apple ][.
Response #25
By: Gowan McGland
Date: 9/17/98 12:53:32 AM
I need to upgrade.
Response #26
By: Hijinx
Date: 10/7/98 12:37:40 PM
Thats OK, guys, I need to be put in my place sometimes and realize my unimportance to the rest of the world:-)!
Response #27
By: rorschach
Date: 10/11/98 4:33:07 PM
true, mea culpa, but hell, I have a TOASTER OVEN that is faster than an apple ][....
Response #28
By: Ralf
Date: 10/14/98 3:59:36 PM
If you dropped a toaster oven and an Apple-II from the roof of the Chrysler building, which would hit the earth first?
Response #29
By: Seventh of Seven
Date: 10/14/98 11:21:53 PM
now why would go throwing around apples when you're in the big apple?
Response #30
By: rorschach
Date: 10/15/98 6:33:23 PM
seems appropriate to me....
Response #31
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 2/18/99 12:16:04 PM
I BARELY have a computer now, and no longer have a wife. So I guess you could say it's one of those good thing, bad thing scenarios. I sure do miss my computers though! :(
And roscahch, nice to see you haven't changed. :)
Response #32
By: rorschach
Date: 2/25/99 1:39:27 PM
Who ME? Change? PFFT! NEVER! The VOICES would NEVER let that happen.....
Response #33
By: Da Sissop
Date: 2/25/99 8:45:37 PM
And if ya can't trust the voices in your head, who *can* ya trust?
Response #34
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 3/2/99 1:25:53 PM
I perfer to trust the voices in someone else's head. Part of my new leaf to become one of the crowd and stop being one of those annoying individual types.
Response #35
By: rorschach
Date: 3/6/99 1:56:24 PM
TRAITOR!
Response #36
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 3/8/99 11:27:22 PM
Remeber kids...
Don't Sneeze and Drive!!!
Response #37
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 3/13/99 9:05:21 PM
What if you were to become part of a community of weirdos, where being normal meant you weren't normal?
"You're individualistic? Join the crowd!"