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By: Da Sissop
Date: 1/7/98 4:26:54 PM
# Replies: 86
So I see on CNN's website that there's a physicist by the name of G. Richard Seed who is planning to clone a human within the next 18 months.
I admit I haven't yet made up my mind on the moral issues involved, but there was a quote in the story that I found extremely disturbing:
"You can't stop science," Seed told NPR. "... God made man in his own image. God intended for man to become one with God. ... Cloning and the reprogramming of DNA is the first serious step in becoming one with God."
Yikes! Did this genemeister really just say he's doing this to "become one with God?" Truthfully, I might've been okay with it if he'd said he was doing it to advance our knowledge of genetics, or even simply "to impress chicks."
Response #1
By: Jay
Date: 1/8/98 11:38:27 AM
If this works my collection of supermodel hair clippings is gonna make me a very happy and rich man
Response #2
By: Zane T. Dark
Date: 1/9/98 12:32:23 AM
Hot and cold running Pamela Andersons, and Ron Jeremy can finally do a sex scene with...himself. The perfection is frightening....
Response #3
By: Cleotis
Date: 1/9/98 8:59:23 PM
Speaking of Pamela Anderson, this is a public service for a friend of mine...
He's got the video, and he's offing copies at $50 a piece.
He made me promise him I'd "post it on the Internet". Does this qualify?
Okay. There. Done. Sheesh.
Response #4
By: Gowan McGland
Date: 1/10/98 3:01:35 PM
Uhm, you can buy a new one for $50.
What a deal!
Response #5
By: Tess Trueheart
Date: 1/11/98 8:42:11 AM
Aunt Bea from Mayberry would be a fine person to clone..
or Alice from the Brady Bunch! Everyone should have one!
Response #6
By: Cleotis
Date: 1/11/98 8:00:12 PM
If you kill someone's clone, is it murder or simply "destruction of personal property"?
Response #7
By: sooz
Date: 1/12/98 7:10:09 PM
Does anyone else find it absolutely hilarious that this guy wanting to do cloning is named DR. SEED?
Ok, here's my problem with the whole thing: Dr. Seed says that oodles of infertile couples have contacted him, urging him not to give up his cloning ideas. With all the kids that are in foster homes and all the babies that get aborted each year, why the heck do we have to make MORE humans for infertile couples?
Response #8
By: Zane T. Dark
Date: 1/13/98 3:58:08 AM
Zane grabs a nearby bowl of peanuts, dumps them into his beer and bangs the bowl on the bar "Here here! I couldn't have said it better myself without spitting on everyone and making that vein in my forehead stand out!" toasting sooz's direction and nearly falling off the stool.
Response #9
By: Roxanne
Date: 1/13/98 11:22:50 AM
*Richard* Seed, no less.
Tee-hee
Response #10
By: sooz
Date: 1/13/98 6:27:34 PM
BLAHAHAHA I didn't realize THAT. The Richard part, I mean.
Why, thank you, Zane. I'm flattered.
Response #11
By: rorschach
Date: 1/13/98 6:29:15 PM
I have to side with sooz in this one. don't get me wrong, I can see many good uses for this technology. such as eliminating genetic defects, and creating trans-genetic animals for phamacological uses or for donor organs. but making kids for the sake of making kids. i dunno. people seem to think they have a god given right to procreate at any cost. cloning infertile people just makes a whole new generation of infertile people. there is nothing theraputic about it. besides, the guy is NOT a medical doctor. he's a PHYSICIST!
Response #12
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 1/13/98 8:44:18 PM
Genetic defects are EVOLUTION WAITING TO HAPPEN.
Whee!
Response #13
By: Ralf
Date: 1/13/98 9:19:35 PM
Today's genetic defect is tomorrow's survival trait.
Response #14
By: Zane T. Dark
Date: 1/14/98 5:48:30 AM
"Well, the way I see it..." quaffing a tumbler of Drano to settle his nerves, "...the stupid people seem to be breeding at an accelerated rate. Normally, this would be good for most of us because we all need stupid people around to catch that stray bullet, test an already implemented air bag design, or use that first iteration of 'Squeeze Parkay'...much like the frigates surrounding the aircraft carrier in a task force to protect it from torpedoes...but it's starting to get frightening because there are so many of them they're starting to run the world, head corporations, make federal policy, design particle-board furniture.." eyes darting about "..I just don't feel safe anymore."
Response #15
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 1/14/98 7:34:17 PM
...not only will there be stupid people, but the clones of those stupid people, as well.
Response #16
By: sooz
Date: 1/14/98 8:29:13 PM
Ror*.*, infertile people having cloned babies doesn't necessarily mean the babies will be infertile. One parent might be Fertile Myrtile, while the other is shooting blanks. Thus, little Myrtle Jr. wouldn't be infertile.
Dolly the Cloned Sheep is pregnant.
At any rate, I think that as soon as we've taken care of all the children that we have on earth, then it'll be time to clone extra ones.
Response #17
By: Gowan McGland
Date: 1/15/98 12:54:02 AM
Sooz said: Ok, here's my problem with the whole thing: Dr. Seed says that oodles of infertile couples have contacted him, urging him not to give up his cloning ideas. With all the kids that are in foster homes and all the babies that get aborted each year, why the heck do we have to make MORE humans for infertile couples?
Because they (yes, THEY!) make it way too fucking difficult to get one of those "unwanted, unloved foster kids". Years and years and YEARS of paperwork and legal fees and this and that. Whereas with Dr. Dick Seed, you go in, you pay him some money, he makes you a baby, you're gone.
Response #18
By: Da Sissop
Date: 1/15/98 5:40:36 AM
Ya still gotta wait nine months or so.
Response #19
By: Ralf
Date: 1/15/98 6:29:59 PM
But you don't have to prove your parental worthiness, as the adoption programs do (supposedly).
You just need to prove you have DNA.
And a butt-load of cash. And a signed waiver.
Response #20
By: sooz
Date: 1/15/98 6:42:11 PM
I've seen lotsa people put ads in the paper: "Loving home will care for and love your baby, all your expenses will be paid, call 1-800-blah-blah". These adoptions don't take forever... folks just sign their rights away, and poof-da.
The waiting, waiting, waiting, Gowan, is because people abort their babies lotsa times instead of doing the adoption thing. Do you think more women would be willing to carry a baby to term if they thought they could be sure the baby would have a good home?
Put me in charge of revampting this system. I'll fix it.
Response #21
By: Da Sissop
Date: 1/16/98 5:22:51 AM
Piss-poor marketing. That's the problem. How about a "Buy One, Get One Free" sale?
Family Night at the Astros game! All kids under 12 get a free kid under 12!
Response #22
By: Zane T. Dark
Date: 1/16/98 7:17:27 AM
Gowan Sez:Because they (yes, THEY!) make it way too fucking difficult to get one of those "unwanted, unloved foster kids". Years and years and YEARS of paperwork and legal fees and this and that. Whereas with Dr. Dick Seed, you go in, you pay him some money, he makes you a baby, you're gone.
Hmmm, kind of like Deck The Walls...but you need stronger hooks.
Response #23
By: Zane T. Dark
Date: 1/16/98 7:20:24 AM
Da Sissop Sez:Piss-poor marketing. That's the problem. How about a "Buy One, Get One Free" sale?
Family Night at the Astros game! All kids under 12 get a free kid under 12!
"And the first 100 through the gates get an extra cap as well...Sunday, Sunday, SUNDAY!"
Response #24
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 1/16/98 6:38:59 PM
It should be noted that there are plenty of kids who aren't cuddly newborns who Need Your Support, too.
Response #25
By: Roxanne
Date: 1/16/98 9:59:34 PM
Kids between the ages of 26 and 34?
Response #26
By: Zane T. Dark
Date: 1/17/98 2:01:49 PM
What kind of support are YOU talking about, Rocks?
Response #27
By: Roxanne
Date: 1/18/98 4:23:16 PM
*grin* Don't worry, not THAT kind...
Of course, if anyone is offering to be a sugar daddy...
Response #28
By: Zane T. Dark
Date: 1/19/98 1:43:01 AM
Don't look at me...I'm still trying to keep my junior mints image together.
Response #29
By: Roxanne
Date: 1/19/98 4:51:29 PM
On a more serius note...
Since we are on the subject (sort of), of unwanted, underprivileged children...is anyone else bugged by those commercials begging for money to help a child in some poverty-stricken country? It occurred to me that they were running similar ads twenty years ago...does this mean that the kids we sent a few dollars a month to feed and school have now bred and we have to support their offspring too???
Birth control..hello! If you are drinking from the same river you wash your clothes in and have only a bowl of rice to eat for dinner...then DON'T HAVE KIDS!
This soapbox moment brought to you by...
Response #30
By: Da Sissop
Date: 1/19/98 9:26:23 PM
...E. Coli! It's Deee-coli-icious!
Response #31
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 1/20/98 3:09:11 AM
Did You Know:
The Pope doesn't want you to wear a condom?
Response #32
By: Da Sissop
Date: 1/20/98 9:55:55 AM
That may be true, but I'd say the odds are practically ZILCH that anyone is going to be having sex with the Pope.
Besides, the big funny hat is probably sufficient birth control.
Response #33
By: Roxanne
Date: 1/20/98 11:00:30 AM
The Pope wants *me* to wear a condom?
Gads...have you seen those female condom thingies? Why not just stuff a baggie up there?
Response #34
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 1/20/98 9:16:59 PM
Well, yah. That's essentially what they are.
Yellow and blue make green, which means: NO BABY.
Response #35
By: Ralf
Date: 1/21/98 9:55:03 AM
Sex is the only entertainment those poor, river-bathing wretches have to pass their miserable lives.
Plus in a pinch, toddlers make a tasty supplement to the adult diet.
Response #36
By: Jay
Date: 1/21/98 10:27:15 AM
odd how once I started making 200 grand a year and stopped bathing in Buffalo Bayou my sex life died....now I know why....
Response #37
By: Roxanne
Date: 1/21/98 12:46:43 PM
Actually, did y'all see that study that found that more educated people have less sex?
Another reason to drop out of school! Whoo-hoo!
Response #38
By: sooz
Date: 1/21/98 5:47:05 PM
Roxanne, the only type of birth control available in most third world countries is abstinence, and we know how good humankind is at THAT. It's not like they can exactly run to 7-11 and pick up rubbers, or go to the corner planned parenthood for some pills. These people live in huts with dirt floors, you see?
All this talk makes me wanna go practice makin' babies.
Response #39
By: Cleotis
Date: 1/21/98 8:17:16 PM
If more educated people have less sex, my IQ must be off the freakin' chart.
Response #40
By: Zane T. Dark
Date: 1/22/98 12:33:53 AM
So I suppose this means either:
Intelligence isn't hereditary.
Or, smart people is really fertile folks...
Response #41
By: Ralf
Date: 1/22/98 4:40:52 PM
Or maybe men really DO think with their balls.
Response #42
By: Roxanne
Date: 1/22/98 5:43:32 PM
Back to my original rant about the people in the underprivileged countries having kids...
My point was: Those commercials about sponsoring a child in poverty...seems if we were sponsoring children in poverty 20 years ago, the current children in poverty are the offspring of the former sponsored children. Part of that 20 bucks a month should have been going to birth control, I would reckon...
But that's just me...
Response #43
By: sooz
Date: 1/22/98 6:39:10 PM
Let's start a fund for a condom airlift/drop. We'll only send those that are "XXL" sized, so the regular-sized men will suddenly think their God-given portion is inadequate.
It's a great plan!
Response #44
By: Ralf
Date: 1/23/98 4:14:46 PM
Or airlift in a coupla megatons of stroke magazines, so they can... you know... without, uh...
...without a LADY if you get my drift. {nudge, nudge}
Response #45
By: sooz
Date: 1/23/98 6:45:39 PM
You know what I like about this bbs? We can take a perfectly serious issue, like overpopulation/poverty/hunger/birth control in third world countries, and turn it into a lowbrow, tacky smut-slinging fest.
I love this place.
Response #46
By: Da Sissop
Date: 1/24/98 5:22:28 AM
All for just pennies a day! It's a cup of coffee and a donut to you, but it means so much more to a starving internet service provider.
Response #47
By: Zane T. Dark
Date: 1/24/98 1:57:34 PM
"Adopt now, and you'll get this full color GIF of your ISP and regular emails updating you on how your gift of love is making a difference in his or her life."
Response #48
By: rorschach
Date: 1/24/98 2:41:19 PM
hey sooz, just remember to remark the packages to "Small".... on the subject of cathaholics and thier adversion to birth control. you have to remember the source of the edicts. when do you think the pope last had the opprotunity to procreate? age 12? personally I don't think the catholic church is qualified to make this sort of edict, its not as if they know much about the subject.....how many kids do you think these guys have? I'd like to see THEM try to support a wife and two younguns.... I operate under a slightly different theory of what the constitution means than the average supreme court justice does, but one i think is much closer to the founding father's original intent. I have the right to do any goddamned thing i want, as long as it does not interfere with someone else doing whatever the hell he or she might want to do. Where the two spheres of rights intersect, THATS what the courts are for. a child has the same rights as i do. a child is unable to fend for itself so it is the parent's responsibility to take care of that child until it is old and wise enough to take care of itself. the fact that a child's sustenance comes via a umbilical cord or via a fully formed lungs and GI tract is immaterial. it is the parents RESPONSIBILITY to supply the sustenance. unfortunately the society we live in has lost sight of the responsibilities and has focused on the RIGHTS, to our great detriment. we now have several generations of people who no longer feel ANY responsibility to society, and instead feel society OWES THEM SOMETHING. one of the founding fathers once said that the tree of freedom must be fed from time to time with blood to grow. it may sound callous, but the people who feel that they are OWED a life must supply this blood, and in doing so, teach others about life's RESPONSIBILITIES.
Response #49
By: Cleotis
Date: 1/24/98 3:14:17 PM
It's times like these that I'm glad I'm not Catholic. We've got a 5 year old, a 19 month old, and one due in March. Subsequently, we've decided it's time to "do something", so it looks like 'ol Cleo is going to be going under the knife this year.
"Uuh, doc? While you're working down in there, I just thought I'd ask... Do you have the tools to, umm, augment?"
*sigh*
It takes a real man to bear his nuts to a stranger with a knife.
Response #50
By: Ralf
Date: 1/24/98 4:36:17 PM
Whazzat? Your bear has strange nuts?
...goddam line noise...
Methinks the edicts against birth-control are rooted (heh) in the days of the crusades, wherein folks were encouraged to augment the ranks of the armies. If you COULD have babies, polite society DEMANDED you did so. A higher law, so to speak.
Response #51
By: sooz
Date: 1/24/98 11:06:15 PM
I wouldn't be a good Catholic, either. I'm not into statues, laws against birth control, or all that freakin' GUILT. I figure Jesus died and took care of all that for us anyway.
One more kid for us, and we'll call it quits. Anyone know where we can find a really cute one?
Response #52
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 1/27/98 10:56:50 PM
I'd make a lousy Catholic, too, being Evil Incarnate.
See, this is what happens. You start up a BBS, even one that's on the web, and you end up talking about abortion.
Its, like, the will-o-god or something.
Response #53
By: Zane T. Dark
Date: 1/28/98 2:09:12 PM
Yep, it took me about 3 listens to figure out what 'Brick' was about, but I'm not as slow as I thought...I'm also not as quick as you'd think, either.
Response #54
By: rorschach
Date: 2/10/98 12:26:09 PM
did anyone ELSE think that didn't make much sense or was it just ME?
Response #55
By: Cleotis
Date: 2/16/98 8:10:56 PM
I think I've finally figured out "Brick", but I'm not sure.
What's your take, Zane? Wonder if it's the same as mine?
By the way, "Naked Baby Photos" is a must have for true BFF fans. "Bad Idea" is worth the price of admission all by itself!
Response #56
By: Zane T. Dark
Date: 2/17/98 11:05:31 AM
Brick:
"They call her name, it's 7:30..."
...she's getting an abortion..that's MY take on it. Particularly the line..'...it's not me you're dying for.' and '...to buy her flowers, and sell some gifts that I got.' I mean, what could be worse than having to sell back baby shower-type gifts. Even makes a dark-hearted smartass like me tear up...to be honest.
...I could be wrong, but it's just too damn sad and eloquent to be anything else.
Response #57
By: Cleotis
Date: 2/17/98 9:11:51 PM
I was thinking the same thing. I was trying to figure out the "sell some gifts" part too. What a great song. There's not many people that can write like Ben Folds.
He must be gay. Straight guys can't write such schmaltzy music, and have it be so beleivable. BFF is truly amazing. Their CD's are just... Captivating...
Anyone who can pull it off with a bass, piano, and drums leaving NO HOLES in the music is a real talent. I mean, you never miss the guitars!
My frield Hijinx used to work at an alternative rock station here in Nashville, and they'd drop by every now and then when they were in town. He said they were some of the nicest, coolest guys he'd ever met. Lucky dog.
Response #58
By: Zane T. Dark
Date: 2/18/98 5:14:30 AM
I DO like their writing and the whole album in general very much...but if I were to be granted the ability to write like someone..it'd be either Moxy Fruvous or TMBG...that's where I am musically anyway...I mean, with Moxy...you don't even miss the instruments.
Response #59
By: Loki
Date: 3/16/98 11:39:30 AM
HEY.. wasn't this about cloning? As a local representative of Evil Geniuses for a Better Tomorrow, I feel it is not just our right, but our Holy Duty to continue research into cloning. I mean sure there are all of the standard arguments against it, "You're meddling with forces beyond comprehension!" "There were some things Man was not meant to know," "Your insensitivity to the suffering of your human subjects is horrifying! How could you do this to someone?" and, of course, "AAraaarrghhh!! My eyes! MY EYEEESS!!!!" But I say that the objectors lack vision. Even though we live in an increasingly overpopulated world with rapidly decreasing resources, even though the variety and strength of the toxins in our air, food and water are increasing in an indirect but measurable relation to each new human born, WHY SHOULD THIS STOP US?! As GOD made Man to serve him, so MAN shall make... well.. uh.. whatever the malformed mutant hunchback thingie we come up with this week is named... to serve HIM. Uh, or HER. As the case may be. It's not as if GOD has been very forthcoming in she/he/it's (S/H/IT) instructions recently, and what do we have to go by? Leadership by example! And MAN made... uh.. Thingie in his own image! What fun is science if nobody gets hurt?
Response #60
By: Ralf
Date: 3/16/98 9:20:05 PM
Science is the irresponsible application of thought.
Science violates nature, since the observer ALWAYS effects the observed.
Belief is all you need. That, and a shotgun.
Response #61
By: Loki
Date: 3/17/98 10:36:38 AM
Ok, I have to contest that. I believe that there is no way that one could go against nature because to go against nature is part of nature too. I mean, through the misapplication of science we can make vast areas of the planet incapable of sustaining any life but the most basic, but you need to define your terms better.
LIFE violates nature, according to your definition, for the observing bacteria and microscopic skin-mites are there to see EVERYTHING that we do. All ranting aside, I do truly believe that the world will benefit through the development of cloning technology, and anyone arguing that it is against the will of God or goes against nature needs to step back from the issue and examine what internal reasons they have for objecting to it, rather than attributing their dissaproval to diffuse, intangible, and externalized concepts that they consider a higher authority.
Belief is a powerful tool, but don't let it be a crutch for honest reasoning. If all you need is belief and a shotgun, well, I'll give your name and number to the Scientologists. They have belief, money, and mastery of the concept of vast and frivolous lawsuits. They whole heartedly believe that their "religion" is the only way to save mankind, and therefore, from a strictly utilitarian point of view, they have no problem crushing anyone that gives them shit or seems to stand in their way. One person, or all mankind? Oooh...tough choice!
Now what's this about belief over science? Do you see any misapplication of reason in the previous example? Hmmmmm??
So tell me, what exactly DOES God think about cloning?
Response #62
By: rorschach
Date: 3/17/98 6:35:45 PM
Loki, I heartily agree with you, and i suspect ralf does too, I think he was being a bit sarcastic (with him, sometimes it's hard to tell...)
Response #63
By: Ralf
Date: 3/17/98 7:47:49 PM
Yeah, right, SARCASTIC. :-)
Actually, I'm a madcap technophile. Love all things technologic.
Ironically, I'm also a spiritualist and firm believer that there is Something Beyond That Which We Can Sense.
I'm a bundle o'contradictions. The hot side stays hot, the cold side stays cold. And somewhere in the middle is a terrible turbulence of the soul.
Response #64
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 3/17/98 8:08:03 PM
Loki, what if people take a deep inventory of their internal reasons for objecting to cloning, and then say, "yep. good enough reason for me. CLONING IS BAD."?
Where's your arguement then?
Ralph, are you really a *spiritualist*? Have you read 'Madame Blavatsky's Baboon?' :-)
Response #65
By: Loki
Date: 3/18/98 10:08:02 AM
Homer; If someone honestly took stock of themselves like that, and could give their reasons, I would accept it as a valid point of view. My objection was using a tenet of a religious faith in order to forward one side of an otherwise logical argument. This CAN be a valid point, but only if the religion in question doesn't have a problem with questioning the answers given from on high or the possible motivations behind them. If a person has deeply seated internal reasoning, that's fine, but I dislike blind faith being taken as an acceptable substitute for clear thinking. Is that better?
Response #66
By: rorschach
Date: 3/18/98 12:54:02 PM
hear! hear! (or is it here here? idunno... but I agree anyway...)
Response #67
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 3/19/98 4:06:07 PM
Yeah, that's better Loki.
I've done some thinking about it, and I think that cloning humans is a Bad Idea. Too confusing. Too much paperwork.
And it brings up questions like this: If you have a clone, and you pay your taxes, and your clone pays hir taxes, is that double taxation?
Response #68
By: Ralf
Date: 3/19/98 7:20:16 PM
Hmmm... I'm thinking one SSN per sentient being, so I'd say the clone would get their own social security number and pay their own damn taxes.
Response #69
By: Mycroft
Date: 3/20/98 4:44:09 AM
I think it's time to remind god why he kicked us out of the garden in the first place. it's been a long time since we made the old coot nervous anyway. I'm just waiting for practical human immortality. I'm gonna sign up and and JHVH-Equivalent to my list of titles..
Afterall, god didn't want man becoming immortal after eating of the fruit of the tree of knowledge for man would then be _like him_.
Have I gone on my rant about "God deserves any suffering he get from us for playing around with free will?" lately?
Response #70
By: Loki
Date: 3/20/98 12:29:17 PM
Mmmmm... Judeo-Christian Mythos... I think I know where I stand on the whole cloning issue. You see, it doesn't really matter to me wether we missaply the technology or use it do better humanity. Whatever happens is bound to be damn fascinating and stir up the waters a bit more. Organized religions especially need a few new kinks tossed into their world-views. Kids of the future, before you go home with that beautiful new friend of yours, ask yourself, are they real, or are they Memorex? Besides, wouldn't it be cool to be able to clone Disney? Or L. Ron Hubbard? Or corner the market on cheap long-pig? Rants aside, I think it should be done just to promote a sort of willful abandon in the field of scientific research.
Response #71
By: Ralf
Date: 3/20/98 4:33:20 PM
Cloning will only be of REAL concern when it gets dirt cheap.
("Billy, for the LAST TIME, stop cloning your sister!")
Response #72
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 3/20/98 4:34:00 PM
Tee hee... You wacky chaote.
Response #73
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 5/4/98 8:00:57 PM
Will you guys stop cloning around in those genes! And put that hydro-fisson generator back in the kitchen right now!
Hye Fang, how about an option to send a reply to a person's e-mail if they would like?
Response #74
By: Da Sissop
Date: 5/5/98 7:22:17 AM
Umm, if you click on their highlighted name you can send an email to anyone who has posted a reply to the thread.
Response #75
By: sooz
Date: 5/5/98 7:50:42 PM
And if you click your heels, as opposed to the author's name, the author will appear in bodily form in front of you.
Response #76
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 5/5/98 8:10:18 PM
Yeah, I knew you could do that, I guess that I was trying to get a way to reply to just a message that I was raplying to, but come to think of it, I think that we have been through this before.
Response #77
By: sooz
Date: 5/6/98 12:36:35 PM
No, that was your clone who had been through it before.
Response #78
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 5/6/98 10:32:53 PM
I just want a clone of my own to call my home
Response #79
By: Ralf
Date: 5/10/98 12:19:02 PM
Dammit, quit clicking your heels!
I've been to your house six times in the past hour...
Response #80
By: sooz
Date: 5/10/98 11:48:49 PM
That explains where all the coffee and pie went.
Response #81
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 5/14/98 9:44:03 PM
Forget the gawds!
Worship the pies!!!
Response #82
By: Ralf
Date: 5/17/98 9:59:54 PM
Mmmmmmm. Pie.
Response #83
By: Loki
Date: 5/22/98 10:55:39 PM
Mmmm... Long pig pie... yet another benefit of human cloning! I just need some good Samoan genetic stock, a couple cloning vats and a deep fat fryer and we're in business!
Response #84
By: Crush the State
Date: 5/28/98 6:45:59 AM
Abort anyone rational. That way, the largest percentage of the population will be happy. Did you know Jeremy Bentham had himself stuffed after death?
Fry more than Samoans. Where is Zane T. Dark when I'm in the return lane at Fry's elektronix? Note good Judeo-Christian business practices.
Response #85
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 6/2/98 2:09:13 AM
Did you know that both Jerry Mathers and the Marquis De Sade share today as their birthday?
...speaking of clones.
---homer the rational and happy
Response #86
By: Zane T. Dark
Date: 6/2/98 5:21:38 AM
Crush: The return lane?! Ya know, I've always thought of myself as having a slow-burning fuse...to the point of being Herculean...but I'm afraid a job like that would have me clock-tower-shopping and reloading my own ammunition quicker than you can give away a case of Mylanta at a chili cook-off.
Oh yea, just a tip everyone...NEVER..and I do mean NEVER fall asleep with the tv on a channel that enters the Infommercial Zone around 2am. The dreams you'll have will be enough to keep you in therapy..or at the very least, wondering why the phrase 'Order Now' keeps flashing in the back of your mind like some kind of high tech fighter jet HUD.
"This is eagle one, I have good tone...errr...do I have permission to fire on Tony Robbins?"