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By: Da Sissop
Date: 4/7/99 8:45:52 PM
# Replies: 52
Just so's ya know...
I've got to be out of this apartment by June 1st. I'm living in one of the last few unrenovated units in this complex, and they wanna finish up their renovations pretty soon, so, that means one of seven possible things:
1. I could move into a *renovated* unit on this property and pay something like $200 bucks more per month.
2. I could relocate to another property owned by the same management, also with the same type of Internet connectivity, and still pay about $200 bucks more per month, but I'd be substantially closer to my beloved Ale House.
3. I could move closer to the Ale House, *reduce* my rent by about $150, and get set up with the fancy new ADSL service that's supposedly being rolled out any minute now, thus maintaining my web presence.
4. I could actually live in the little tiki hut on the Ale House patio, pay $0 rent, and occasionally access the internet from one of those little cafes nearby.
5. I could look into (gulp) *buying* a townhouse or condo somewhere, maybe break even on the rent/mortage payments, and whatever additional fees are a great big question mark.
6. I could marry a nice career woman and we could pool our incomes and live in River Oaks.
7. I could join the Peace Corps.
So... to sum up, be forewarned that at the very least, my I.P. address is going to be changing again, and at the very worst, the board may hafta go on hiatus for a while.
Response #1
By: Ralf
Date: 4/8/99 12:32:49 AM
I propose that you set up a single-line dialup BBS.
A little tiny internet. An ISP of one modem, if you will.
Response #2
By: The Sorcerer
Date: 4/8/99 8:49:34 AM
Whatever ya' decide, let me know if you need help moving. If your thinking of ADSL you want to make sure it will supported in that area and findout when the SWBell will be deploying there, their rollout schedule is kinda' funky.
I put my order in for ADSL around the end of February. I was notified by the phone company yesterday that I am close enough to my C.O. to qualify. They will be installing in my area starting April 15th. It's a darn fine deal. For $129/month you get a downlink rate of 6Meg - 1.5Meg and an uplink rate of 1.5Meg - 400K. The ISP service with dedicated 24/7 connectivity and 5 IP addresses is like $50/month. And you don't need a separate phone line either. Voice and data over the same copper pair, simultaneously without impacting your voice or data signal, unlike ISDN.
Unfortunately my ISP (Neosoft) hasn't even got a plan to address ADSL yet so I'm having to move to SWBell as my ISP.
Sorc'(Rev)
Response #3
By: Seventh of Seven
Date: 4/9/99 2:36:44 PM
my tiki hut in jamaica will always have a spare couch. and i'll see if i can't lure a few career women as well.
Response #4
By: Ralf
Date: 4/12/99 12:24:37 AM
ADSL isn't available in my zip code, yet. When it is, BellSouth will charge me ~$600 for installation, and about $200/month for 6mb/s throughput and a dedicated IP.
Bastards.
If my biz is lucrative enough to justify it, I'll do it anyway. If MediaOne delivers on their empty promises instead, I'll probably have a cablemodem sooner: "only" 600Kbp/s, with occastional squirts up to 1.5mb/s, but shared amongst all the WebTV clickmonkeys in my neighborhood. I can deal, though, since it's only $100 installed and $49/month, INCLUDING premium cable.
Dammit, I'm a customer with cash in hand. Why do they make it so hard for me to spend it?
Response #5
By: The Sorcerer
Date: 4/12/99 1:33:40 AM
Ralf Sez:
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ADSL isn't available in my zip code, yet. When it is, BellSouth will charge me ~$600 for installation, and about
$200/month for 6mb/s throughput and a dedicated IP.
Bastards.
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Ouch! That's way pricey. Check to see if Bell with give you a discount for signing a years contract. In Houston, SWBell will wave the install fee and drop your monthly by about $20 if you sign a year contract. You do have to pay $198 (one time fee) for the NIC and the ADSL "modem" though...even if you already have the NIC.
I'm surprised the price is so high. Atlanta has one of the big backbone nodes, like Houston. Sprint Paranet is building our Remote Operations Center there and I believe is one of the first places we will be rolling out ION (Integrated On-Demand Networking) which needs an installed xDSL base. If you're still shopping in June/July, you might want to see if ION will be available to you and priced more competatively.
Ralf Sez:
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If my biz is lucrative enough to justify it, I'll do it anyway. If MediaOne delivers on their empty promises instead, I'll
probably have a cablemodem sooner: "only" 600Kbp/s, with occastional squirts up to 1.5mb/s, but shared amongst
all the WebTV clickmonkeys in my neighborhood. I can deal, though, since it's only $100 installed and $49/month,
INCLUDING premium cable.
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I dunno...the price is alot better, but I'm still not much of a cablemodem fan. Cheap, highspeed internet connections marketed out the wazoo by the cable company...I just feel this stuff will be a victim of it's own success. So many people will go online over cablemodem that your bandwidth will get choaked back to 56k modem speeds. Also, when they started rolling cablemodems out in Houston you still had to have a regular modem to carry your outbound traffic. Have they found a way around that yet?
One thing you might want to look at also... When ADSL comes out, it may make ISDN prices come down to where that might be a more attractive option for you as well.
Just some ramblings....
Sorc'(Rev)
Response #6
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 4/12/99 2:11:56 PM
If you are talking in the Houston area, cable modems are on their way. I believe they are already doing early bird sign up in selected areas of town.
MUCH cheaper way to go. :)
Response #7
By: sooz
Date: 4/12/99 3:29:35 PM
Ralf resideth in Atlantaeth.
Response #8
By: Ralf
Date: 4/12/99 11:27:53 PM
Yep, I live in Norcross, GA -- a bedroom community of Atlanta. Nice li'l slice of suburbia.
If I lived within Atlanta I'd have lots of options: SDSL, ADSL, ISDN, two different flavors of cablemodem, and probably a better class of prostitute.
Since I live "outside the perimeter" my options are exactly zero.
Sorc': the $200/month price I was quoted for ADSL *is* for a two year contract. Get this... they won't even install it without a multi-year contract. It's not even an option.
FUCKING bastards.
This is especially galling when one considers that Norcross is Atlanta's high-tech corridor. In addition to the world headquarters for Atlanta Scientific, we've got Lucent technologies' big factory, SAAB's IT department, a huge raft of software development houses (including Peachtree Software, Navision, and Progress's SE headquarters), and a bunch of consumer electronic offices, like JVC, Hitachi and Panasonic. All within 5 minutes of my home.
There's more fiber around here than Nabisco's shredded wheat factory.
And I can't have none.
Response #9
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 4/16/99 4:55:02 PM
Get a Cable Modem......Go to Jail
Response #10
By: Tess Trueheart
Date: 4/28/99 7:21:29 PM
Just remember if you buy, this is a seller's market, meaning prices are higher. Rates are low, but if the market bottoms out again you could have paid an inflated price, and history here shows townhouses and condos take the longest to recover. With that said, let me know if you need an agent. Smoooch!
Response #11
By: Da Sissop
Date: 4/28/99 7:51:23 PM
Whelp, I'm slated to move into a new apartment either the weekend of the 8-9th or the following weekend of the 15-16th. I will be living at the bustling hub of Westheimer and Shepherd, right next door to the big Randalls Flagship.
I still dunno 'bout my internet options yet, but in case there's some nunnery downtime, ya might wanna make sure I've got your latest and greatest email addresses. Either make sure your user profile is updated, or send me an email at beinfang@ix.netcom.com and I'll make sure you're kept abreast of things.
Response #12
By: sooz
Date: 4/28/99 8:59:10 PM
Response #13
By: Gowan McGland
Date: 4/29/99 12:18:42 AM
He's holding out on us, too. He was only talking about "a breast".
Response #14
By: Da Sissop
Date: 4/29/99 6:49:59 AM
Okay okay, sheesh, I wasn't trying to titillate you guys.
Response #15
By: Ralf
Date: 4/29/99 7:03:48 AM
Huhuhuhuhuhuh.
Response #16
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 4/29/99 3:14:22 PM
(Melodramrtic Organ Music Playing In the background) Cable modem Vs ADSL? Which will Da Sissop choose? Tune into tomorrow to find out.
Response #17
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 4/30/99 2:44:27 AM
Who cares about dsl versus cable modem? What's *really* on our minds is: How fat will he get on dumplings at Auntie Chang's, what with it being right next door?
Response #18
By: Da Sissop
Date: 4/30/99 5:19:33 AM
Oooh! I hadn't even considered that. I've mostly been thinking about how the Ale House is only two blocks away.
Response #19
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 4/30/99 9:34:44 AM
You know, and I can't believe I haven't mentioned this until now, but they have opened up an Ale House here in Austin. Haven't had a chance to go yet, but I am cusrious to see what it's like, and donwer if it's the same people that own the one in Houston? Do you guys know?
Response #20
By: Da Sissop
Date: 4/30/99 5:07:22 PM
I'll letcha know what I can find out.
Response #21
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 5/1/99 12:09:24 AM
Geesh! What the hell happened to my typing while I was at work today reading through the Nuns?
I know I type bad, but this is rediculous!!!
Response #22
By: Tess Trueheart
Date: 5/1/99 8:20:22 AM
You know I have trouble finding thingys when you move them around! YOu can keep my breast as long as you help me find my thingys again.
Response #23
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 5/1/99 10:26:25 PM
I didn't move them, I promise!!!
Response #24
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 5/2/99 2:09:27 PM
So, Fang, the scenario for your nightly outings looks like this: Wander over to Auntie Chang's, eat a plate full of dumplings, wander over to the Ale House, drink more than your fill, puke up the dumplings (they're really attractive after they've been partially digested), and then saunter on home.
I was going to insert Rally's hamburgers in there somewhere, but then I remembered that they went out of buisness.
Response #25
By: Ralf
Date: 5/2/99 2:58:50 PM
Update: I finally got a cablemodem.
I downloaded the whole internet last night, looked it over, then deleted it. Yawn.
What other new technology should I become obsessive about?
Response #26
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 5/3/99 12:21:15 PM
Ralf: "Update: I finally got a cablemodem."
So how are you liking it?
What kind of xfer rates are you getting?
(I can feel a geek attack coming on)
Response #27
By: Tess Trueheart
Date: 5/3/99 7:15:44 PM
Ooo guess what? Well you can't so I'll tell you! Sister of misery #1 had her senior pictures done and the disky thingy gawd at work scanned them and mailed them to me here, except I forgot my whole address and couldn't remember the thingy we use to look around the web with so they didn't make it, but still, Kev's going to write it down so he can send them to me at home tomorrow and then he can show me how to bring it here!! Isn't that great?!
Response #28
By: The Sorcerer
Date: 5/4/99 12:29:39 AM
Tess Sez:
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work scanned them and mailed them to me here, except I forgot my whole address and couldn't remember the thingy we use to
look around the web with so they didn't make it, but still, Kev's going to write it down so he can send them to me at home
tomorrow and then he can show me how to bring it here!! Isn't that great?!
=========================
Cool! You realize of course...once you learn how to put pictures on the web here you will have officially become a k00l 3LiT3 WEB HAKKUR BABE!!1!11!!!
Sorc'(Rev)
Response #29
By: Tess Trueheart
Date: 5/6/99 5:16:49 AM
Kev still won't tell me our address. In my life this is the first time I don't know my address.. show me they way to go home..
Response #30
By: The Sorcerer
Date: 5/6/99 6:53:28 PM
Tess Sez:
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Kev still won't tell me our address. In my life this is the first time I don't know my address.. show me they way to go home..
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Actually...I think I know your address if you haven't changed the company you get your internet connection from.
Sorc'(Rev)
Response #31
By: Ralf
Date: 5/7/99 8:59:01 AM
I love this thing!
I downloaded the Kingpin demo from interplay.com -- all 109M of it. I had throughput of between 132K and 160K bps. That's about the best I've seen, though. Average is around a sustained 64KBps.
I've been listening to realtime streaming 100kbps stereo music.
ArtBell's audio quality still sucks.
Now it's really obvious which sites are megaservers and which are some guy's shared C: drive. :-)
Response #32
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 5/8/99 7:39:27 AM
Ralf: "I downloaded the Kingpin demo from interplay.com -- all 109M of it. I had throughput of between 132K and 160K bps. That's about the best I've seen, though. Average is around a sustained 64KBps."
Yech! That sucks though Ralf There are registry tweaks out there, esp if you are running 95/98 that will pick that up for. Unless you ARE indeed hitting some guys C-drive, you should be getting way better than that.
Let me know when you would like to try a test. I 'll set you up an account on my FTP server (since I had to shut down the anon account due to someone passing it around) and we can see what kind of xfer rate you get to something with no traffic. Just to see what you get.
Send me your IP address in e-mail, I'd like to see what kind of ping times and what kind of trace route I'd get from your modem to mine.
Response #33
By: Ralf
Date: 5/8/99 8:26:08 AM
It's a DHCP address, so subject to change, but 24.88.20.22.
Sure, I wouldn't mind a test. When you say registry tweaks, do you mean like the kind of thing SpeedLane does?
Response #34
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 5/9/99 2:02:46 PM
Here's what the ping got. C:\>ping 24.88.20.22
Pinging 24.88.20.22 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 24.88.20.22: bytes=32 time=331ms TTL=54 Reply from 24.88.20.22: bytes=32 time=370ms TTL=54 Reply from 24.88.20.22: bytes=32 time=391ms TTL=54 Reply from 24.88.20.22: bytes=32 time=341ms TTL=54
Pretty laggy. Tracert is even worse C:\>tracert 24.88.20.22
Tracing route to P400 [24.88.20.22] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 30 ms 20 ms 20 ms 24.93.60.1 2 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 24.93.33.101 3 60 ms 10 ms 10 ms 24.93.33.37 4 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 24.93.33.33 5 70 ms 70 ms 70 ms bordercore2-hssi5-0-0-3.WashingtonEast.CW.NET [ 66.48.246.13] 6 340 ms 361 ms 360 ms core2.Atlanta.CW.NET [204.70.4.197] 7 340 ms 361 ms 360 ms border8-fddi-0.Atlanta.CW.NET [204.70.86.67] 8 440 ms * 440 ms tele-communications.Atlanta.CW.NET [204.70.90.4 ] 9 410 ms 411 ms 441 ms 24.88.3.6 10 410 ms 381 ms 470 ms 24.88.0.245 11 441 ms 351 ms 320 ms P400 [24.88.20.22]
Trace complete.
Is this a new service they have going or has it been established for awhile? I know when they first got the service going here, took them a little bit to get some of the kinks worked out.
Response #35
By: Ralf
Date: 5/10/99 8:00:01 PM
Theoretically it's an old network -- MediaOne's been doing CableModems since 1996 or so. I just think I'm on the rump-end of a load of badly-configured routers and whatnot.
Like plugging your hair-dryer into an extension cord, plugged into a power-strip, plugged into another extension cord, plugged into a 3-way 60-watt bulb adaptor attached to a table-lamp, plugged into the wall.
I'm lucky the lights don't dim when I hit Enter.
But, it sure beats a modem any day of the week!
Response #36
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 5/11/99 1:50:25 PM
Well, that's probably true, but for cable, that's still pretty bad. I'll go through some of the registry tweaks I have, as well the URL off the Road Runner site that has some reg tweaks as well, if you want them. Bunch of the guys I work with have used them with great success.
Response #37
By: Da Sissop
Date: 5/11/99 6:34:53 PM
Impending Downtime Alert! Impending Downtime Alert!
I'm tentatively scheduled to move *this coming weekend*, at which time I plan to redirect the http://come.to/webnuns pointer to a colorbar test pattern, so if ya wanna be notified of when the Nunnery is up and running again, either make sure I've got your email address, or periodically check the aforementioned link.
Sniff... I *hate* this part....
Response #38
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 5/13/99 11:57:46 AM
Da Sissop "Sniff... I *hate* this part...."
We do too!!
Response #39
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 5/13/99 11:03:09 PM
What will the new phone number be?
Response #40
By: Tess Trueheart
Date: 5/16/99 7:37:56 AM
I guess I should say so long then. I'll never be able to find it on my own and I don't know my address.
Twas nice reading all of you. Maybe one day this disky thingy dummy will read you once more. Take care of you.. all! (sniff,sniff)
Response #41
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 5/16/99 3:25:47 PM
tess: bookmark the following link -
right-click on it. select 'bookmark this link.' Voila!
Response #42
By: Gowan McGland
Date: 5/16/99 11:46:02 PM
It's 11:46PM on Sunday the 16th. Nuns is still up.
What gives?
Response #43
By: Tess Trueheart
Date: 5/17/99 5:41:39 AM
Thank you Homer. Smoooooch! I love you too!
Response #44
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 5/17/99 6:49:54 PM
Honey: "tess: bookmark the following link -
http://come.to/webnuns/
right-click on it. select 'bookmark this link.' Voila!"
Homer, aren't you asking a BIT much? This is Tess we're talking about. :) j/k with ya Tess.
Response #45
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 5/18/99 12:23:58 AM
Well, either she figured it out, or she *thinks* she figured it out, and either way I got a smooch out of it, so I'm happy.
Response #46
By: Tess Trueheart
Date: 5/18/99 5:17:14 AM
I think I got it right.
Ok single stud muffins.. there is a good looking blonde lady I work with who is looking for an interesting, stable, articulate man of her dreams. I'm thinking an ale house snerd might be in order soon to meet and drink, but not look like a set up?
Any interest in a group snerd?
Oh and I have senior pictures on a disk that I'm not sure how to post, Homer instructions please.. smoooch in advance!
Response #47
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 5/18/99 11:44:20 AM
Tess: "Ok single stud muffins.. there is a good looking blonde lady I work with who is looking for an interesting, stable, articulate man of her dreams. I'm thinking an ale house snerd might be in order soon to meet and drink, but not look like a set up?"
How old is she?
Response #48
By: The Sorcerer
Date: 5/19/99 2:16:08 AM
Tess Sez:
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Ok single stud muffins.. there is a good looking blonde lady I work with who is looking for an interesting, stable, articulate man of
her dreams. I'm thinking an ale house snerd might be in order soon to meet and drink, but not look like a set up?
===========================
Hmmm.... Do ya' think she is willing to negotiate on the stable and articulate part?
Tess also sez:
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Any interest in a group snerd?
===========================
What a fine idea.
And lastly Tess said:
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Oh and I have senior pictures on a disk that I'm not sure how to post, Homer instructions please.. smoooch in advance!
===========================
You'll need to upload them to a server on the internet and put a command in your message that points to where the pictures are. Don't know if Jim has a place to upload files but he might be able to do something. Or...if you get 'em to me, I can post them for you.
Sorc'(Rev)
Response #49
By: Tess Trueheart
Date: 5/19/99 5:24:37 AM
Sorcy..that's an offer I can't refuse!
The young lady is roughly my age, but doesn't look as old. Ok, let's work on an Ale House snerd in June.
Kev is having knee surgery sometime in the next two weeks, and Court's going to walk the stage in the next two weeks.
Yesterday was an interesting morning, 4:15 house alarm goes off, everythings ok, I go back to bed. 6:30ish Mom calls, Dad is having serious chest pain, we go to the Dr, not a heart attack thank goodness. 5:30 Kev told he will have knee surgery. And I still worked half a day.
Response #50
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 5/19/99 1:33:12 PM
Tess, you are one busy lady!!
Response #51
By: Da Sissop
Date: 5/19/99 8:17:20 PM
Hola! Whelp I'm almost but not quite completely moved out of the whizbang apartment of the future, and I've only just gotten a working foneline so that I may dialup and access my own damn server....
So, I'm due to be completely out of the whizbang place by the 22nd, at which point, the borad will be in limbo, until I can get either cable modem or DSL service.
Whatver happens, http://come.to/webnuns will be the way to get to whatever comes next.
Response #52
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 5/20/99 11:42:58 AM
Sniff! Sniff! What a bummer!!!