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By: Ralf
Date: 1/21/98 10:13:10 AM
# Replies: 63
Here's a thread so you can post your devotional thoughts about Microsoft.
It's about time you just knuckled under and admitted Microsoft is THE only software company. All other software is a faint shadow without merit. Windows is the operating system of 1000 years, which will smite the hideous spawnosatan MacIntosh System 8.0 yea verily and suchforth.
And while you're at it admit that Bill Gates knocked Jesus off the top-ten list in 1990 when he INVENTED THE INTERNET! That's right, the whole thing was His idea from the start. You can read about it in the sacred holy book 'The Road Ahead'. Were it not for The Gates, you'd have to buy your porn at Circle-K.
So worship with me... DOWN ON YOUR KNEES, DAMMIT!
Response #1
By: Cleotis
Date: 1/21/98 8:37:05 PM
Ralf, you're going to get flamed for it, becuase I can tell you're serious.
And, I agree with you.
With the possible exception of the various flavors of Unix/Linux (which don't count because only the truest of computer geeks can run them), Microsoft has created the ONLY personal computer operating system that matters. All other operating systems are simply irrelevant to today's computer world. Apple's destiny will unfold soon enough.
Gates has taken credit for a lot of things he has no right to, but one thing can be said for this man. The company he runs has singlelandedly squashed all other competitors in the home and small business market.
Someone has to say it, because amen brother, it's true.
Response #2
By: Jay
Date: 1/22/98 10:46:34 AM
Bill watchs over and protects us all.
Response #3
By: sooz
Date: 1/23/98 6:51:01 PM
Bill, and Buster Hymen.
(Whee! It's multi-useful!)
Response #4
By: Da Sissop
Date: 1/24/98 6:46:03 AM
And Bill Hymen had the foresight to integrate his internet browser so tightly with the operating system that now the Justice Department bows down to him, and his competitors have to start *giving away* their browsers for FREE!
It's loaves and fishes! And cookies!
Response #5
By: Cleotis
Date: 1/24/98 3:31:32 PM
Check this out.
My brother put in the new IE4 on his computer.
My brother is a neat-freak when it comes to his hard drive, and he's pretty knowledgeable about software and such. He's no newbie - he knows what he's doing.
He put in IE4, and didn't like it. So, he uninstalled it. When he did, not only did Netscape stop working properly, but now he can hardly view any multimedia files, even after installing the Win95 codecs! He's now looking at a complete reinstall of system.
I'm generally the one waving Microsoft's banner, but it looks like the Justice Department may have been on to something here.
Response #6
By: rorschach
Date: 1/24/98 3:46:26 PM
ITS A CONSPIRACY! REMEMBER WHO BILL GATES'S DAD IS? FORMER HEAD OF THE CIA! BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING! why do you think intel is pushing the video cams for your machines? visions of the screens in 1984 keep haunting me!
Response #7
By: Da Sissop
Date: 1/24/98 4:15:13 PM
Cleo: In a way, I think your story supports Microsoft's position. The IE4 installation is a beeeg step in the direction of upgrading to Windows 98 (or 99 or whatever it turns out to be). The Internet Explorer and Windows Explorer become one and the same.
And a curse upon thee who tries to remove this essential component.
"Not liking" a particular Microsoft software package is NO justification for trying to remove it. You will eventually LEARN to like it.
Response #8
By: Ralf
Date: 1/24/98 5:07:39 PM
Heheh... "Resistance is futile."
I had occasion recently to uninstall IE4 and revert to IE3, and what saved me was Cybermedia's Uninstaller 4.5. It correctly replaced the files that got uninstalled with the original files snapshotted at the time IE4 replaced them.
Buy it today: $49/retail, $35/street. It's saved my butt more than once.
(Disclaimer: I don't work for Cybermedia. I'm a pretty smart guy, and fiddling with the registry is child's play, but installing software scares me silly. This app has paid for itself dozens of times over.)
Response #9
By: rorschach
Date: 1/27/98 10:00:00 AM
yo ralf, not that its appropriate here, email is fine but just how DO you reconstruct a registry that has gotten trashed?
Response #10
By: Cleotis
Date: 1/27/98 5:17:12 PM
Easy!
Boot from floppy, then:
FORMAT C:
Response #11
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 1/27/98 11:27:47 PM
quoth rorshach: ITS A CONSPIRACY! REMEMBER WHO BILL GATES'S DAD IS? FORMER HEAD OF THE CIA! BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING! why do you think intel is pushing the video cams for your machines? visions of the screens in 1984 keep haunting me!
The screens in 1984, just like in the Apple ad. Yah.
I'll go to the lions rather than sing the praise of Bill. Just another geek with too much money...
Oh, and speeking of vidcams hooked to your computer, I now have one of those. Its a big eyeball, staring at me.
IE4 won't set foot on my hard drive. Another Mac-person friend of mine installed it. It crashes a lot, it corrupts files, it generally does crappy things to your mind.
WHY DO ALL WEB BROWSERS SUCK?
Response #12
By: rorschach
Date: 1/28/98 10:04:23 AM
because all large software companies are public corporations more interested in showing a profit this quarter than R&D spending.
am I repeating myself?
Response #13
By: Zane T. Dark
Date: 1/28/98 2:29:50 PM
Perhaps, but some things need repeating...even if just to make you feel better. Thanks to Intestial Explorer 4.0, I've generated 2 coasters on my CD burner...after uninstalling the bugger, everything works fine...well, as fine as can be expected with winderz '95..
Zane's method for making ROM's...
Make ISO image of CD... Turn off/disable EVERY program in the system tray.. Turn off the screen saver and every other 'green' option on the system.. Click on 'Write!' Turn off screen... Crack open a Foster's... Leave the room and do not..I repeat..do not even *look* at the computer for 2 hours.
...and even this is looking like a 79% success...(sigh)
Response #14
By: Ralf
Date: 1/28/98 7:46:04 PM
The easiest way to fix a damaged registry is to boot into "Safe mode" and then reboot back into normal mode. That 10-minute restart with all the disk access is Windows rebuilding the registry from a backup copy it keeps hidden away for emergencies.
If THAT doesn't work, and the machine's still bootable, you can use REGEDIT.EXE to export the undamaged keys, boot into DOS, and use the command-line version of REGEDIT to load them back in. I can look up the syntax for you if you like... I don't remember off hand.
The last time my registry blew up, I fixed it by buying a new computer. :-)
Response #15
By: Gowan McGland
Date: 1/28/98 11:37:59 PM
Alternately, if you constantly get the "Your registry is corrupt. You need to reboot so it can be rebuilt" kinda message, you can reboot into DOS, go to your Windows directory, copy system.dat and user.dat to a backup somewhere and then copy system.da0 and user.da0 over the originals. Tada. You just restored the backup copy of your registry.
They're all hidden and system files, of course, but if you're messing with this stuff, I think you know how to use "attrib".
Response #16
By: Ralf
Date: 1/30/98 7:24:35 AM
Did I mention FirstAid97 (or FirstAid98)?
One of the cool things it does is build an emergency floppy disk customized for your machine. Boot from that, type "911" and it'll do all sorts of whiz-bang stuff, like restore from those hidden backup files.
(If you DO get FirstAid, turn off that damned "Guardian" applet. It's an aggressive little toolbar slob that constantly monitors your PC for evil, and gets IN YOUR FACE about stuff. Also, it sucks resources. FirstAid good, Guardian bad.)
Response #17
By: rorschach
Date: 1/30/98 8:42:06 AM
ya know, this kinda goes back to what my original point was, if win95 is so damned special and wonderful and shit, why do you have to buy ADDITIONAL SOFTWARE to keep it running right? norton utilities used to be for when YOU fucked up and deleted stuff or the hardware went south and you got a bad spot on an HD, not to keep DOS running when IT fucked up... it didn't ever really fuck up. if this is such a common problem it should be integrated the way scandisk is integrated now.... trash collection and error trapping is FUNDAMENTAL to a good OS. microsoft and made extensive efforts to hide all the backroom work that goes into a gui based system but in doing so it made it impossible for the average joe hacker to figure out what went wrong. you just about have to have access to the developers kit to diagnose problems anymore....
Response #18
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 1/31/98 4:22:03 PM
I don't...
But you knew that.
:-)
Speaking of which, I found out that the new MacOS 8.1 update (15megs of ftp) will conflict with my most-used piece of software: Savitar, a MUSH client. Argh.
Response #19
By: Ralf
Date: 1/31/98 10:03:30 PM
Welcome to the world of Windows. Hell, we INVENTED software conflicts. You Mac users are always copying us! :-)
Speaking of which, I'm running the beta 3 build of Win98, and y'know, it hasn't broken anything yet. Even MY OWN software runs on it.
I may ignore my own advice and upgrade when the real thing comes out.
Response #20
By: Zane T. Dark
Date: 1/31/98 10:29:49 PM
Ror:
Ya know, it didn't seem right to me either...3 days before Win 95 was availble for 'official purchase, they had *buckets* of 'First Aid 95' software already on sale...nobody seemed to make the connection. I mean, if a drug store were to offer you a new and impoved condom that came with 3 months supply of amoxycillin...
...I didn't think so.
Response #21
By: rorschach
Date: 2/2/98 8:16:52 AM
but what about the child support payments?
Response #22
By: Gowan McGland
Date: 2/2/98 11:14:19 AM
I think at the time Windows 95 was released, First Aid 95 was more a utility to determine how to setup your system best to upgrade to Windows 95. It made copies of your system files and whatnot, and cleaned things up so you'd ostensibly have a smoother transition to Windows 95.
Response #23
By: rorschach
Date: 2/3/98 2:15:58 PM
how can that be? it won't run in win 3.1x so you would have already upgraded by then and then the damage was done. was it supposed to pick up the pieces AFTER you trashed your machine? suppose you couldn't get it running long enough to INSTALL firstaid 95? this bring me to another pet peeve i have with the software industry, not just microshaft. it is the industry's reliance on online manuals. if you can't get the software to run or install how in hell are you supposed to read the flipping MANUAL? besides what are you supposed to read while you are in the crapper? a hustler?
Response #24
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 2/3/98 4:22:57 PM
Oh, that's why there's PDF.
Thanks to Adobe's lovely technology, we can all view any electronic document on any platform, EVEN PRINT!
Right this minute, I'm downloading Adobe Acrobat Reader for Paper v.3.01.
Response #25
By: rorschach
Date: 2/5/98 11:36:07 AM
BUT WHAT IF IT TRASHED YOUR MACHINE AND YOU CAN'T EVEN GET THE DAMNED THING TO BOOT?
Response #26
By: sooz
Date: 2/6/98 12:09:16 AM
That's why you keep the # for customer support handy.
Gosh, my '95 runs fine.
Response #27
By: rorschach
Date: 2/6/98 11:47:01 AM
like IBM does on their APTIVA line....They print the tech support # on the front of the machine! Is that a bad omen or what?
Response #28
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 2/7/98 7:48:57 PM
Apple puts a big flier in with their computers that says 1-800-SOS-APPL.
Good customer service does not equal bad product.
Response #29
By: Gowan McGland
Date: 2/7/98 10:35:47 PM
Despite what Homer's example may make you think.
Response #30
By: rorschach
Date: 2/7/98 10:38:45 PM
a flyer is one thing, but putting it on the front of the machine? sounds to me like they EXPECT you to have problems. customer service should mean you spend the time and money necessary to eliminate the possibility of problems up front, not make you wait on hold for an hour to hear a recording telling you that the charge will be 45$ per incident and you can have it billed to your VISA/MC/AMEX or if you call back on a 1-900 number they can bill your phone #.... (true story)
Response #31
By: jjhitt
Date: 2/8/98 1:37:03 AM
> recording telling you that the charge
> will be 45$ per incident and you can have
> it billed to your VISA/MC/AMEX or if you
> call back on a 1-900 number they can bill your
> phone #.... (true story)
HEY! I staff a technical support phone line (from 2300-0700, great hours). For some folks, those rates should be quadrupled. Just this week I tried to "assist" someone who had to be told how to locate the "delete" key on his keyboard. I was on the phone for 1 hour and 40 minutes with that asshole.
And a night doesn't go by when I dont get someone who thinks that I can "see" what they have on their monitor.
Response #32
By: Da Sissop
Date: 2/8/98 2:05:59 AM
Psychic Friends Technical Support!
"It was amazing! My psychic support person knew things about my TCP/IP settings that even my own mother wouldn't have known!"
"I met this wonderful woman in an IRC chatroom, and we were going to meet for dinner. I decided to call my psychic support person for advice, and he told me that it was probably a fifteen year old boy! I am so glad I made that call."
"My psychic support person knew immediately that I was not computer literate!"
Response #33
By: rorschach
Date: 2/8/98 2:11:13 PM
true, I've done the tech support stuff myself... got one story about a funeral home director that just moved his machine into a new wing of the funeral home and couldn't understand why it wouldn't come on... after having him check the power cords and switches and such i asked him if the power was on in that wing yet....uh... no.... but personally i think charging the consumer for support on the assumption that ALL the calls are going to be due to the user's stupidity is unfair. some are due to the MANUFACTURER'S stupidity those should be free.... perhaps a recording that goes something like $45 per incedent unless it is determined that the problem is of a warranty nature which at that time the charge will be refunded....
Response #34
By: Tess Trueheart
Date: 2/9/98 5:08:41 AM
Ya know..you disky thingy people should not bitch so much at those of us who are NOT so inclined..
Afterall..without us..would they really need you?
Hmmmm...
Response #35
By: rorschach
Date: 2/9/98 8:57:11 AM
sorry tess, but you see, there needs to be a certain level of intelligence required before using an information technology machine... it just seems obvious to me that if the machine works off of electricity, and if it is in a building without electricity, the machine probably won't work.... would you trust a circular saw to a 4 year old? or maybe your car? don't get me wrong, computers are a wonderful uplifting experience, but before you jump out of an airplane don't you think it might pay to take a couple skydiving lessons?
Response #36
By: sooz
Date: 2/9/98 5:57:55 PM
What you are, Ror, is an I.Q. snob. You look down on those with lesser-than-average intelligence, and think they should have limited rights and freedoms.
If we didn't have the less-than-averages, though, what would the averages and above be measured by? The whole scale would move.
Response #37
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 2/10/98 5:34:35 AM
Hmm. Interesting proposition. Cut off the bottom left of the bell curve.
How do we do it?
Response #38
By: rorschach
Date: 2/10/98 8:22:32 AM
circular saw? hehe.. no sooz, you misunderstand me, I'm not a snob, (at least i try not to be..) my point was that a computer is a very complex piece of equipment, the fact that armies of programmers and designers have striven to make them easier to use only disguises that fact, if anything it makes them even MORE complex. the PC in front of you today is an order of magnitude more complex (and thereby more fragile) than our old C-64's. it only seems reasonable to me that before someone goes and blows a couple months salary on a nitro breathing blueprinted computer, they should consider SPENDING a couple months at a continuing education class on beginning computers so they can have a chance at enjoying it a while before they have to take it back to the store to have the hard drive wiped and reloaded. those who venture into the realm of complex machines without a clue do so at their own risk. again, would you put a 4 year old behind the wheel of your car? or for that matter an 18 year old with no training? do you remember all the mistakes YOU made when you first learned to drive? I sure remember mine... (as does the insurance co.) luckily many of my mistakes were made while sitting next to a driving instructor with her own brake pedal installed. the people whom jj and I were speaking of were first time computer users who went and bought a machine without knowing what they were getting or probably even a clear understanding WHY they were buying one... they just knew that computers were a good thing to have.(not much different than we were so many eons ago) they they assumed that the manufacturer would spend the money training them on how to operate the machine via the tech support #'s. back when WE started using computers sooz, if you pressed the wrong button, no big deal, nothing got broke. things have changed now, it IS possible to break things badly by pressing the wrong buttons, it happens every day. we were lucky in that we learned on machines with built in training wheels (system in rom machines), the new generation is not so lucky and as a result its much harder to pull it out of the box and go play with it the way we used to.
Response #39
By: sooz
Date: 2/10/98 8:38:53 AM
I see where you're going. However, if we limit computer access to only those that understand computers, then where does that logically lead?
You don't break your prose into easy-to-read paragraphs. Should we take away your right to post? Heck no!
Screwing up one's computer is not equal to letting an untrained person drives. If I break my computer (like the time I typed "del *.*" while in my dos directory), no one suffers bodily harm.
Response #40
By: rorschach
Date: 2/10/98 11:50:13 AM
that depends on how long your hubby had been working on that presentation for his boss's boss....hehe.
sooz, I never said access should be RESTRICTED, only that those who dive in without checking to see how deep the pool is have only themselves to blame if they break thier spine. it should not be up to tech support to stand at the side of the pool to grab their ankle as they bob back to the surface.
this time of year is especially hard on technical support personell because so many people went and bought machines over the holidays and have had time to thouroughly screw them up by now. Now the whining and bitching starts but usually the object of the bitching is NOT the fool who screwed up the machine in the first place, its usually the manufacturer (and by proxy the poor dumb sumbitch who has to answer the friggin phone.)who gets blamed.
a modicum of understanding IS essential, but not required, and THAT is the problem. so many people think that they can get by without it and when they realize they can't they do not take responsibility for the error. instead, they start pointing fingers.
Response #41
By: Ralf
Date: 2/10/98 6:06:48 PM
Actually, the point will be moot in a few years.
Technology ALWAYS follows a curve of weird/exciting/fragile to commonplace/boring/robust.
Look at cars. In 1905 owning one meant you were wealthy, eccentric, and knew how to fix it yourself. It was a frill, something to gawk at and frighten the neighbors with. If it broke, your life was not fundamentally changed.
Nowadays any moron can operate a car. They're cheap enough that many people own two. You can drive one for YEARS and never look under the hood. If it broke down, you'd be majorly inconvenienced.
And people almost NEVER call technical support to ask how the doors open.
See what 100 years of refinement does for a product?
And the curve is steepening... cars go thru a generation about every 10 years. Computers go thru a generation about every 10 months. (Think back to the computer you wanted 10 months ago... chances are, the machine you'd buy today will kick its ass.)
In a few years, computers will be everywhere, built into (literally) everything, will take care of themselves, and will only make their presence known when we need them.
Response #42
By: jjhitt
Date: 2/11/98 1:35:31 AM
> the people whom jj and I were speaking of were
> first time computer users who went and bought a
> machine without knowing what they were getting or
> probably even a clear understanding WHY they were
> buying one...
Yea, verily...
I frequently find myself dealing with persons who have bought
computers with NO IDEA WHATSOEVER as to WHY they
bought them.
It's scary to think that marketing has gotten to be so
powerful that it can influence a person to go out and spend a
thousand or more dollars and never ask themselves what they
intend to DO with what they are buying.
It is one thing to go through life thinking your fellow man is a complete idiot.
It is something else, yet again, to confront (on a daily basis) inarguable evidence that he is even dumber than you guessed.
Response #43
By: rorschach
Date: 2/11/98 9:42:22 AM
But JJ, think back a ways... do you recall why YOU bought your first machine? I do, I was curious, thats it... just curious. No other reason. The printer was a thermal piece of crap that used 4" wide adding machine tape, the machine's keyboard was membrane and you couldn't type for shit on it. What was I gonna do with it? write the next huge novel? there wasn't even a word processor available for it. There were no games except the ones I tapped in from out of a book.
But thats ok, because I at least learned basic programming and a rough idea of how a machine worked. Then I graduated to a C-64 at home and an Apple II at school and got a little more proficient at it and got more interested in how the machine actually WORKED inside,not just how to program it. Then after a few years I went to college and learned to use some mainframe mini's. From there I went on to PC's and haven't looked back. Hell, next time you see any shuttle video it used one of my machines.
Buying a machine because you are curious is a valid reason for doing so because it can lead to so many other different things. look at the above! But in doing so, people have to remember that they are responsible for what they do and should take proper precautions and learn as much as they can before doing something potentially messy.
Response #44
By: Ralf
Date: 2/11/98 6:33:07 PM
I am very curious about biological weapons. Doesn't mean I want to OWN any.
Response #45
By: sooz
Date: 2/12/98 12:20:57 AM
People that are very serious about their computers refer to them as their machines. I've learned that.
Response #46
By: jjhitt
Date: 2/12/98 2:04:50 AM
> But JJ, think back a ways... do you recall
> why YOU bought your first machine?
As a matter of fact, I didn't buy my first machine.
I date back to the days of Time Sharing.
That meant staying after school to use the printing terminal
because you didn't play football, were too ugly to get laid
and were completely out of dope.
> the machine's keyboard was membrane
Sounds like a TIMEX. (mine is still ticking).
Response #47
By: jjhitt
Date: 2/12/98 2:14:09 AM
> People that are very serious about their computers refer
> to them as their machines.
If'n ya want to be cool, ya call it your box.
By the way.... are you still in Austin? Halloween on Sixth Street
has become something of a religious pilgrimage for me.
The last two years I have painted myself blue.
Great costume (I at least think so), but everyone keeps asking
me "what I am supposed to be". Sheesh... paint yerself a
different color and people expect you to "be" something.
Response #48
By: rorschach
Date: 2/12/98 9:13:28 AM
tell them you are depressed, obviously they don't get it so who cares....
yep, it WAS a timex.. bought it with my OWN money when I was like... 16? or so... still got it up in the attic somewhere, (I NEVER throw stuff away, no matter how useless it is)....I still remember all the yards I had to mow to get it too...
Response #49
By: Jay
Date: 2/12/98 11:31:03 AM
tell them that they'll never take away your freedom
Response #50
By: sooz
Date: 2/12/98 11:40:41 AM
Yepper, JJ, I'm in Austin. I've never been to 6th Street on Halloween. I'm a tiny bit claustrophobic, and I also wonder what happens when someone farts in a crowd that large - who do you blame it on? That, and I wonder where everyone goes when they need to pee.
I've been around people with testosterone poisoning (i.e. men) too long. I think in terms of bodily functions. Yuck.
Favorite Halloween Costume: I put a stuffed monkey around my neck and went as the Empire State Building.
Last year, I made colorful stickers, saying things like "Start" and "Trash" and "My Computer" and pretty colorful things. I went as Windows 95.
Response #51
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 2/12/98 6:17:03 PM
Were you sure to fall down a lot, sooz?
People use computers nowadays, and the hardware and software are so sophisticated that all those things you spent those many hours doing in 1979, when you isolated yourself from your friends and family in order to interact with a machine... all those things are now quite routine. And when you tell normal people, 'hey, I used to program my ZX81 to do that...' they, by and large, won't be impressed. You folks are just going to have to deal with it. :-)
Response #52
By: Ralf
Date: 2/12/98 8:39:36 PM
My buggy whips are the finest ever crafted.
Response #53
By: Da Sissop
Date: 2/12/98 9:33:34 PM
I read somewhere that TV Guide listings are actually going to be built in to Windows 98.
And if I have a V-chip, I won't have to see any news programs dealing with white house scandals.
Response #54
By: Gowan McGland
Date: 2/12/98 11:43:47 PM
Actually, I think Susan's best Halloween costume to date was Mary Magdelene.
Jesus was there, too.
I have the pictures to prove it!
Response #55
By: sooz
Date: 2/13/98 1:11:14 PM
Yep, I have those pictures too, somewhere.
And your best, oh Gowan, was the Roman at the toga party. You dressed in bandana material with a hat, boots, and tin star, and were from western Rome.
Response #56
By: Gowan McGland
Date: 2/14/98 1:13:19 AM
Actually, I think I've topped that now.
For the past three years, I've been a pirate.
I finally got fed up with going through all the trouble of coming up with a costume, so three years ago I bought everything I could possibly need to be a pirate. So, I went as a pirate that year.
Two years ago, I wore the same costume but carried some floppy disks and stuff with me. I was a SOFTWARE pirate.
This year, I bought baseball socks, a baseball and a ball cap. INstead of a hook, I wore a baseball glove.
That's right. I was a PITTSBURGH pirate.
I'm thinking about going as Pontius pirate next year.
Response #57
By: sooz
Date: 2/14/98 4:03:52 PM
Yer a genius. Pardon me if I steal all those ideas.
Response #58
By: Ralf
Date: 2/16/98 8:16:55 PM
You mean you're gonna PIRATE them?
Response #59
By: Zane T. Dark
Date: 2/17/98 11:32:57 AM
Speaking of pirating...I just installed one of those new MOD chips in a Playstation the other day that will enable it to run import AND CD-R copied games...works like a champ. But the soldering should only be done by someone who knows what they be doin'..trust me on this one. Oh yea, my fees are modest..just in case anyone cares.
"Will work for beer....or unsolicited praise"
Response #60
By: Zipperhead
Date: 2/24/98 12:12:24 PM
Ralf, did you know that Gates Paddles his wife?
Response #61
By: Ralf
Date: 2/24/98 5:57:37 PM
Only if the Department of Justice tells him not to.
("Okay, you have to remove Internet Explorer from Windows98, change your bundling agreements with Dell and Gateway, and for GODS SAKE, stop spanking your wife.")
Response #62
By: Tess Trueheart
Date: 2/28/98 10:47:58 AM
Ror..way back there when you used the example of intelligence, cars, & computers.. clear this up for me..being of lesser intelligence..I confuse easily..
Where you saying you were intelligent enough to manipulate your first computer.. but not your first car?
Hmmm...
Response #63
By: rorschach
Date: 2/28/98 7:35:33 PM
Something like that!... You see, my motor skills have never been what one would call exceptional. Just look at my TYPING! Besides, you don't need a learners permit to operate a computer, and if you do break it, the only one who cries is you. But then again the only one to blame is you too....