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By: The Professor
Date: 8/12/00 8:09:18 AM
# Replies: 18
I noticed that Ralf is at the Nunnery the same time that I am. (8/12 at 8am even though it's 10am where I am at)
What we need is a chat room here...
Response #1
By: Ralf
Date: 8/12/00 5:48:09 PM
ICQ 27808473
But good luck catching me online.
Response #2
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 9/2/00 11:04:46 PM
He's kidding right?
Just in case...
My ICQ # is 2015523
AOL IM ID's:
CaptSpastc
CapSpastic
BenCorbitt
Response #3
By: Ralf
Date: 9/3/00 9:15:20 AM
What I mean is, I almost never leave the ICQ client running for long because it's a memory hog and crashes my VB development environment.
Thus, catching me online would be an amazing stroke of luck.
Good or bad, your call. :-)
Response #4
By: sooz
Date: 9/3/00 9:15:47 AM
Just in double case, my ICQ # is 11022887, "sooz".
I'm so creative.
Response #5
By: Ralf
Date: 9/3/00 4:17:17 PM
AND, she's married. So no hittin' on her, k?
(It sez so right in her ICQ profile.)
Response #6
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 9/4/00 8:07:50 AM
Ralf, the fact that you know that is in her ICQ profile, is...is...is...well damn it, I don't know what it is, I just felt the need to point that out.
I know what you mean about ICQ though. That damn thing is a HORRIBLE memory hog. I use to really like ICQ, and I still like all the features, but damn, leave that sucker open for more than 15 minuetes, and even my 500 with 128 megs of ram starts dragging. Just plain sad really.
If you REALLY want to get ahold of me, good old fashioned e-mail is still the best way, if you want to chat with me, you are going to most likely catch me on IM these days as opposed to ICQ. Never thought I'd say that, but alas, it's true.
Ok, and here's another confession. I even use Netmeeting. Hate to admit it, but it does have some cool features, and comes in quite handy at times.
Response #7
By: The Sorcerer
Date: 9/4/00 10:30:31 AM
Hmmm.... LICQ takes up 5.3 meg of memory and sits at 0.0% CPU utilization when idle. Goes up to 5.5 meg and 0.9% CPU utilization when chatting.
ICQ#: 65089005
Sorc'(Rev)
Response #8
By: Ralf
Date: 9/5/00 6:43:20 AM
Yeah, but that's Linux.
Windows ICQ 2000a (beta): 17+ meg when idle. If I keep it running, then GDI and USER ram drains away to danger levels over the course of a few hours. It *could* be an interaction between it and the VB IDE, but I'm not concerned enough to troubleshoot it. All I know is when I keep ICQ off, I can run VB all day without a crash.
The Windows version is so bloated and silly that it's near unusable. I mean, it's evolved from a simple chat client into a freekin internet telephone and email service. Gah.
Response #9
By: The Sorcerer
Date: 9/5/00 3:30:10 PM
Aye! Not just Linux but OpenSource too! :)
There was a time when a program's elegance was marked by it's small size and simplicity. *sigh*
All of the energy in the Linux (and OpenSource) realm has gotten me so charged lately that I've been been seriously working on delving back into programming...trying to relearn what I've forgotten after all these years. There is a whole sense of excitement there again! Its a chance to get into the real fun of why I started tinkering with computers in the first place all those years ago.
Sorc'(Rev)
Response #10
By: The Professor
Date: 9/5/00 7:56:36 PM
Sorc'
Regarding Open Source... I've taken up learning PERL. (that's the only thing my web hosting site let's me run)
There are just some things that are best suited to do in an interpreted language without having to deal with a bunch of GUI objects. I've already gone through the Visual Quickstart on PERL and am ready to hack some code.
Response #11
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 9/5/00 8:47:06 PM
Ralf is right. The linux version is much less overhead, and much less features too though.
Response #12
By: The Sorcerer
Date: 9/5/00 9:39:23 PM
Prof:
Heh...PERL good! Get the O'Reilly "Camel" PERL book and make it your bible if you haven't done so yet! If you're mainly looking to use it for web stuff then you might also look at the O'Reilly book on "Web Client Programming with Perl" It gets into socket calls, using LWP modules, Perl/Tk stuff, etc.... Haven't really dug into that one yet.
I'm working on learning PERL myself, and working on RE-learning C++.
Capt:
Never used the windows version, what features am I missing? I can do chats, file transfers, change skins, build groups, setup auto-notify and auto message reply. I can't think of much more I would need/want it to do, it's just a chat program.
Sorc'(Rev)
Response #13
By: Ralf
Date: 9/6/00 5:39:12 AM
Does anyone know of a stripper ICQ client that doesn't have all the goofy bloat? I don't care about skins, libraries of sound effects, voice support or any of that other crap.
I *do* need file transfer capability.
(BTW, I can't use Netmeeting because the folks I need to talk with are ICQ-bound. And the last time I checked, Netmeeting requires a hotmail account, which I have difficulty keeping alive. :-)
If I can scare up a 1998 version of ICQ, would that work?
Response #14
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 9/6/00 6:44:42 PM
The older version fo ICQ now have trouble with servers. They changed something in the source code in one of the latter 99 alpha versions. The older versions have a great lag sending messages, if they complete at all now. There was a JAVA version of ICQ, I don't know if they have continued it's development or not. The JAVA version was indeed stripped down, and did not offer as much features. However, hte last version I tried was VERy difficult to set up, and very buggy. I gave up trying to use it.
There IS an a;ternative to having a Hotmail account with Netmeeting. Since Microsoft has abandoned the old Microsoft Wallet technology, they have adopoted Passport. Passport id an encrypyted online version of Wallet. If you sign up for Passport, you can use that instead of a Hotmail account with Netmeeting.
Just a side note Ralf, don't know how you fel about Instant Messenger, but it now supports file transfer. It's much lighter overhead than ICQ, doesn't start sucking resources like ICQ, and can transfer files failrly quickly.
Yet one more option. Don't know if you are familiar with Yahoo Messanger. You can do basically the samethings as with AOL's Im, the one advantage you have with Yahoo is that the contact list travels with your accounr from system to system. IM's contact list is kept locally on the system, which I find VERY inconvient.
Response #15
By: Ralf
Date: 9/7/00 5:53:03 AM
Like I said, I'm kinda tied to ICQ because that's what my partner likes. But I'll see what I can do to get him thinking about alternatives.
Thanks for the leads.
Response #16
By: sooz
Date: 9/7/00 6:37:02 AM
See what ya get for doing what your partner likes? Mmmm hmmmm. (knowing nod, etc. etc.)
Response #17
By: Ralf
Date: 9/7/00 6:46:53 PM
Oh, get yer mind outta the gutter.
Response #18
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 9/8/00 9:51:49 AM
Yet another missed porno opportunity!
:)