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By: Zipperhead
Date: 6/2/98 4:59:31 PM
# Replies: 79
Well there seems to have been a lot lately from Mr. Crush about whats wrong and all Fucked up. Go for it dude. But hey lets here from everyone about whats RIGHT!!!!!
Response #1
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 6/3/98 2:58:34 AM
What's right?
The opposite of left.
Response #2
By: Zipperhead
Date: 6/3/98 11:23:00 AM
Thanks Homer. You appear to be my only friend here. Or perhaps maybe Crush is right after all.
Response #3
By: Ralf
Date: 6/4/98 6:14:53 PM
"Right" and "Wrong" are so... absolute.
I prefer a more flexible, adaptable morality. Like, "yeah sure, killing people's kinda wrong, but dammit, he parked in my spot."
Response #4
By: Mycroft
Date: 6/4/98 9:44:19 PM
As a vague take on the "everything that happens to you is a lesson life wants you to learn" from my coffehouseconversation from the night previous this is pretty funny and brings us back yet AGAIn to the high-school massacres.
Response #5
By: Crush the State
Date: 6/5/98 10:37:20 AM
Right and wrong make no sense to a postmoralist.
To borrow those definitions from the language you might probably be using, both are necessarily simultaneously "true."
To make more sense of that, I will point out that thousands of years of unmitigated human brutality, rape, suffering, malevolence and stupidity have brought us to this point... so that, in the lexicon of nature, there is a _chance_ we might think.
And yes, it seems my postings are a lesser extreme. Hopefully that won't drive too many of you to irrat-shun-ality.
Response #6
By: Zipperhead
Date: 6/5/98 12:36:43 PM
You really are boring you know.
Response #7
By: Ralf
Date: 6/5/98 7:34:15 PM
A college education does that to some people. Expands their vocabularly in useless directions.
The effects are often temporary, until they get a fuckin life.
Response #8
By: Loki
Date: 6/6/98 4:32:02 AM
Ralph, Zipperhead... Come on guys, if we're going to get abusive, can't we do it more creatively?
Crush: >Right and wrong make no sense to a postmoralist.
As an ethical skepticist, I have to agree with you on this point. Right and Wrong, Good and Evil, and in general all boolean value judgments when extracted from a system of formal logic and put into use in a discussion of ethics are pretty fuckin' pointless. Don't make me drag Jaka into this. She can produce REAMS of this sort of philosophical gymnastics and tie all our wonky brains in knots. I don't think it's polite, however, to assume people are stupid simply because they don't write in philosophical jargon while posting their messages!
Just to get this out of the way, Crush_The_State, precisley how would describe your philosophical views? Please use little words so us plebians can understand, and if possible, go into a brief summary of the terms you use. For instance, if you were to say you were a:
Zen-Taoist-Agnostic-Dyslexic-Discordian-Humanitarian-Postmoralist- Utilitarian,
I would expect a brief definition of 1)Discordian 2)Humanitarian 3)Postmoralist (and Moralist, if it applies) 4)Utilitarianism
This way you can vent your spleen, define your terms, and perhaps allow us a bit more understanding of your rather cryptic postings.
Wow... sleep deprivation causes me to wax eloquent... wonky..
Response #9
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 6/6/98 1:14:01 PM
What's right is all this is not left... maybe. But only in s reverse parrell direction on an obtuse angle directly perpendicular to pi.
Suprised I could type that after a 6 pack of Bass, and have that few typos!
What's all this stuff about right and wrong anyway?
If what you're doing isn't directly hurting anyone esle, and it's what you want to do, it's right. If what you are doing makes me want to stick a larged studded butt plug up your ass, and pop it like a cork in a wine bottle, followed by at that point tying you to the ground and pouring honey in said hole, then watching while fires ants slowly feed on and devour you. It must be wrong.
But I digress...
Response #10
By: Gowan McGland
Date: 6/6/98 2:05:35 PM
I *might* not be wearing pants.
Response #11
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 6/6/98 7:14:28 PM
Right and wrong make whatever sense they make, even to postmortalists. I mean, if it's wrong to not be a postmortalist...
Response #12
By: rorschach
Date: 6/6/98 11:15:51 PM
ok, definition time crush....
now, I am a reasonably educated person. but my specialty is in more concrete subjects... like, well... concrete... or steel.... or electronics.... you know, things that actually keep society ALIVE and PRODUCTIVE.... now, the post- prefix usually means "after"... ok, I'm with you so far... moral means "what is generally considered good or right by a fairly large chunk of the population" ok, I'm hearing the word but not really getting the connection... then we get to the -ist suffix, which usually is meant to describe someone who does or studies the given subject.
ok, moralist I would gather means someone who either is very moral, or who's life work is studying morals. ok, so far so good... but I still don't get the the "post" connection.
personally I think all these philosophy blatherers are making up words with no real meanings to make everyone else scratch their heads and/or asses trying to figure out what they said so that they can sound educated.
Response #13
By: Ralf
Date: 6/7/98 10:16:56 AM
I thought I WAS being creative in expressing my point.
To wit, some people emerge from four years of formal education filled with wonderous new concepts they feel compelled to share with the world. Stuff I thought was way-neato-keen 15 years ago.
Then, they collide head-on with the realities of a job, love, life, happiness, and The World. The newness of these concepts wears off a bit as they "get a fuckin life".
Sure, I've agonized over the existance of morality, self-conciousness, intelligence, and what it means to be human. Then I shrugged and started paying attention to the here/now.
Crush's heavy stream-o-conciousness ramblings just make me wanna pat the guy on the head and say, "isn't that NICE. Check back with me in a few years."
Then again, it could be a 'bot.
Response #14
By: Gowan McGland
Date: 6/7/98 1:15:48 PM
And if he doesn't get over it, he can always pursue a meaningless career teaching Philosophy at some Junior College.
Response #15
By: Jay
Date: 6/7/98 8:45:58 PM
Right or Wrong makes not sense to a postal worker
Response #16
By: Zipperhead
Date: 6/8/98 8:49:42 AM
Ralf is still my idol (only if he has pants on). I too went through all that crap many years ago. Almost drove me Fucking nuts. Guess what Crush, It DONT mean shit. As much education and as many real "Big" useless words you use. Your still just as insignificant in the whole thing as this old High School dropout. Try this, "Get A Life" and "Get Happy" and "Have some Fun". Remember, yesterdays gone, tommorow will be "OK". All you really ever have is "NOW".
Response #17
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 6/9/98 3:12:38 AM
Just don't stop thinkin' about tomorrow. Because you know, it'll soon be here.
Response #18
By: sooz
Date: 6/9/98 2:09:13 PM
And, like, if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.
Response #19
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 6/9/98 5:05:33 PM
My baby's got VD...That's Vibrator Dependency
(Surely someone else must listen to Mojo Nixon?)
Response #20
By: Gowan McGland
Date: 6/10/98 1:01:55 AM
I'm sure several of us know the elegant soundings of Mr. Mojo Nixon. Who could forget such classics as "I've Been Stuffin' Martha Quinn's Muffin"?
I do still mourn the loss of Country Dick Montana, though. Man, I miss The Beat Farmers.
Response #21
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 6/11/98 12:54:42 AM
You folks grew up?
I'm sorry to hear it...
Response #22
By: Gowan McGland
Date: 6/11/98 1:29:21 AM
I guess we ran CrushTheState off.
We weren't intellectually challenging enough, I suppose.
Response #23
By: rorschach
Date: 6/11/98 9:13:34 PM
or maybe he's busy getting that "post" removed from his morals....
Response #24
By: Loki
Date: 6/12/98 8:12:58 PM
Aaah, reminds me of the carefree days of my youth browsing through alt.sex.aluminium.baseball.bat.
[sigh]
Response #25
By: Ralf
Date: 6/14/98 5:16:13 PM
Homer: *I* haven't changed. But everything else sure has...
Response #26
By: benadams
Date: 6/23/98 6:54:02 PM
About that big vocabulary stuff, I have a dic-shun-ary at work because this guy I work with always uses really big words. I still consider myself smarter though, because I can explain complicated things using simple words. Just ask Einstein ("Genius is the ability to simplify the complex") . I can eat fast, too.
Response #27
By: benadams
Date: 6/23/98 6:56:49 PM
Oh yeah, and speaking of eating ... Today, I ate a sub(wheat footlong with cheese) that was pizza, meatball, and a BLT all in one. See, I've been saving up these Subway coupons for about three weeks and today, I decided to let them fly. Did I mention that the chick at Subway was hot?
Response #28
By: benadams
Date: 6/23/98 7:00:59 PM
Speaking of hot, my friend was telling me how she drove by a whole bunch of soccer fields and there was nobody on the field. As they came up on the only two trees in the park, they saw a massive group of people under these two trees because it was so hot. She had a really nice luxury car that had the temperature gauge inside. She said the temperature was 99. If anybody knows a girl named Valeria Guajardo, tell her to e-mail me. gracias ..
Response #29
By: sooz
Date: 6/23/98 9:20:37 PM
Howdy do, sir! What city would you reside in?
Response #30
By: Da Sissop
Date: 6/24/98 11:48:38 AM
Oh! Oh! I know this one!
Response #31
By: Zipperhead
Date: 6/25/98 3:16:51 PM
Hey Jim, can we ban Ben? My deep agression for him has come back. Thank God he moved to Dallas!!
Response #32
By: Da Sissop
Date: 6/26/98 12:01:11 PM
Naw, we can't ban anyone. But I may begin work on my planned User Preferences settings, whereby you could selectively elect to have a user's messages run through the Swedish Chef filter.
Response #33
By: Zipperhead
Date: 6/26/98 3:41:13 PM
Lets run Ben through that instead.
Response #34
By: benadams
Date: 7/1/98 10:33:27 PM
speaking of running, every once in a while I have a really strange urge to get fit, so I go running. I plan on running such and such a distance for a period of time. After the first couple of steps I get tired and change my mind. That's when I realize I really don't care to be too fit any more. So, I'm stuck - I kind of want to be reasonably fit, but I don't want to exert any effort to achieve this.
Response #35
By: rorschach
Date: 7/1/98 11:45:08 PM
this is why they have second hand stores for exercise equipment...
Response #36
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 7/2/98 12:19:35 AM
There are two things you can always get at thrift stores:
1) Exercise equipment
2) Dot-matrix printers
Response #37
By: Zipperhead
Date: 7/2/98 8:28:08 AM
Ben, please sell your fucking computer NOW!!!!!!!
Response #38
By: rorschach
Date: 7/2/98 10:58:54 AM
chill zipp... ok so he's a bit irritating... but if you recall, so were YOU when you first got here....
Response #39
By: Gowan McGland
Date: 7/3/98 2:01:46 AM
what do you mean "were"?
Response #40
By: Ralf
Date: 7/3/98 8:09:42 AM
You kids settle down or it's straight to bed with ya!
(Zipper: wink, wink)
Response #41
By: sooz
Date: 7/5/98 2:37:10 PM
I'll turn this BBS around and we'll ALL go home!
Response #42
By: rorschach
Date: 7/5/98 6:22:46 PM
you mean we'll all end up back in houston and where we were circa 1984 or so? hell lets do it.... things have definitely gone downhill since then (at least on the funmeter side...)
Response #43
By: sooz
Date: 7/8/98 3:45:43 PM
1984? It was more like 1987-1989, 'cuz I didn't even get a modem until I was pregnant with Jimmy, and he was born in 1987. See, Ror doesn't know everything after all. :-)
Honestly, I woudln't go back to those days for a million dollars. I'm much more stable, sane, settled, and comfortable with myself and my life than I was then. Thank God.
There's some iron, though, in all the stuff that happened between us some 10 years ago. Through meeting you people back then, it's currently effected my life in the following ways:
Homer D. Brave - has totally redesigned our web page, making it look much slicker. And he did it cheap and easy.
Cleotis - Cleo's in the Christian music biz, as is my husband (and me, in a peripheral way). We've run into mutual friends and acquaintances, and bounced ideas off one another.
XenoeX or whatever Bill's calling himself - He owns a DJ bizness, and also DJs in Houston dance clubs. We do dance music, and he offered to check out our CD to see if it's something he can slip into a few mixes.
Ain't this fun?
Response #44
By: Gowan McGland
Date: 7/8/98 5:53:22 PM
So, you're just our friend for the networking opportunities?
Response #45
By: rorschach
Date: 7/8/98 9:13:29 PM
well, i remember i was heavy into modeming by 1984 because i graduated high school in 84... and that was probably the first year that i was.... ok, so nuns may have been a year or two later, memory has been one of those things that have been slipping away of late..... yes, my life was alot less stable then as well, but you know... there wasn't the responsibility i got now either... i could stay up modeming all night and sleep in government class and STILL make an "A".....
Response #46
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 7/8/98 11:38:46 PM
Sooz, I gotta meet you He-he
Response #47
By: Zipperhead
Date: 7/9/98 8:07:12 AM
ror. Ben is my Pal. I trained him in VB and stuff. He knows Im just kidding him...Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Whats up with this WERE shit....I am and always will be an insufferable twit...And perhaps the most annoying person on the face of the earth...If that ever changes LET ME KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh yeah...I AINT RIGHT...Any person who goes to work for EDS not once, not twice but THREE different times...Well what can I say...
But, I have more fun than most :) P~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Response #48
By: sooz
Date: 7/9/98 3:33:35 PM
Gowan, I only like you because you can teach me how to wear a toga better than anyone. That's how I network with you.
What I meant was that I find it funny that, 10 years down the road, I have so much in common with the same people that I thought were cool in the 80's. F'rinstance, Fang is da bomb, and always will be.
Response #49
By: Gowan McGland
Date: 7/9/98 7:16:23 PM
We have no comment at this time.
Response #50
By: Cleotis
Date: 7/9/98 8:33:11 PM
I'm only here for the hors'd'ouvres and the trash can punch.
Response #51
By: benadams
Date: 7/10/98 5:52:50 PM
True dat ... True dat .. true dat .. true dat .. true dat ... If anyone ever says anything less than their true opinion, I think of them as less of a person (unless that person is me because all rules that I ever make never apply to me). Speaking of me, I think I'm one of the coolest people I know. Zipperhead, zippermouth, or whatever, you can come in second (to me) if it makes you feel better. Speaking of feel better, I met this chick (I hope it is anyway) through icq and she sent me a picture of a hot chic and claimed it was here. Here's her e-mail: Fudgeda1@hotmail.com Tell her the humanbomb told her to send you a photo to ...
Response #52
By: benadams
Date: 7/10/98 5:53:21 PM
aa
Response #53
By: benadams
Date: 7/10/98 5:54:36 PM
oh man, I typed a bunch of stuff but lost it - instead of retyping it, I'll just leave it up to your imagination what I typed. he hee
Response #54
By: benadams
Date: 7/10/98 6:11:00 PM
i didn't lose it.. it's still there
www.jennbrat.com rocks
what is vb? does that stand for something? vulcan booger? very boring? viking ben?
I'm really glad that sooz got to share boring, useless information for the sole purpose of talking about herself (I call sooz a her because only girls talk about themselves in that emotional, boring way and even if it was a guy, he's close enough to being a girl to be called that) and all the people that she met and what's going on with her life and what she's been through and where's she going and I think I'm going to puke .. dumb bitch
Response #55
By: benadams
Date: 7/10/98 6:13:43 PM
I did not type that last entry, someone edited it and put that in there! I think it was ror
Response #56
By: rorschach
Date: 7/11/98 2:55:40 PM
"fraid it twernt me....."
Response #57
By: Da Sissop
Date: 7/12/98 8:32:18 AM
SHUT UP, BEN!!
(Hey Zipper, that felt kinda good!)
Response #58
By: Ralf
Date: 7/12/98 12:58:59 PM
So... is benadams a bot?
Response #59
By: benadams
Date: 7/12/98 1:19:23 PM
bot? bachelor original tenderheart? blasphemous overachieving talent? well, I'm more like a FAG ...
... ... female ass grabber
Response #60
By: Cleotis
Date: 7/12/98 3:46:33 PM
IRC has this neat feature...
"/ignore"
Response #61
By: Zipperhead
Date: 7/13/98 9:34:29 AM
Ben, I truly am gonna kick your ass. I want you to appolgize to sooz. Your an insufferable twit.
See what I mean Da? And to think I had to share an office with this guy.. P~~~~~~~~~~~~
Response #62
By: sooz
Date: 7/14/98 5:35:51 PM
Hee hee. It's ok, Zip, but thanks for your chivalry. This ain't real life, it's a message board. It's ok, really.
Response #63
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 7/15/98 1:37:23 AM
zipper sez:
I want you to appolgize to sooz. Your an insufferable twit.
You know, if we were all grammarians here, we'd wonder why you thought sooz was an insufferable twit.
Response #64
By: Zipperhead
Date: 7/15/98 9:25:49 AM
Crap. Ok Ok, Im sorry sooz. Im gonna beat you up Homer...
I know sooz. But Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggg Ben is Real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
P~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Response #65
By: Ralf
Date: 7/15/98 9:52:41 PM
I'm sorry for any trouble I may have caused.
I'm not wearing any pants.
Response #66
By: benadams
Date: 7/16/98 7:50:36 AM
I'm really good at grammer. Some people call me a 'pro' grammer ... What's a coolben gotta dooooooo ??
Response #67
By: Zipperhead
Date: 7/17/98 8:13:02 AM
Ralf, when did you ever put them back on?
Response #68
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 7/18/98 6:36:58 AM
That's not ALL people call you Ben
Response #69
By: XeonoeX
Date: 7/24/98 1:45:34 PM
Cancha just feel da love in dis room?
-Bill
Response #70
By: benadams
Date: 7/24/98 5:11:57 PM
BOOM! BOOM! Let me hear you say WAYYOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Response #71
By: benadams
Date: 3/9/99 7:46:30 PM
I'm a completely different person - I've really grown up ..
I bought a 99 Trans Am V8, 305 hp, 5.7 liter. I still have my eclipse, too. I'm making a fortune up here in dallas ...
Response #72
By: sooz
Date: 3/10/99 7:43:04 PM
Response #73
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 3/11/99 10:22:46 AM
What's wrong with Babemobiles? Where would Babeman & Robin be without one?
Response #74
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 3/13/99 9:23:39 PM
Babeman: Fighting crime while cruising down Westheimer in his TransAm.
Response #75
By: sooz
Date: 3/14/99 12:20:05 AM
The question - do you really want to deal with a woman that's more interested than your car than you?
Response #76
By: Da Sissop
Date: 3/14/99 8:38:04 AM
I dunno.. maybe for a little while.
Response #77
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 3/15/99 1:22:53 AM
...and if the rates are good...
Response #78
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 3/15/99 8:15:52 AM
Sooz, do you REALLY need an answer to that question when you are tlaking to guys?
Response #79
By: Seventh of Seven
Date: 3/15/99 10:32:20 AM
"Hey baby, i've got leather apholstry and electric windows."
"Leather?"
"Electric."