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By: Ralf
Date: 8/16/98 10:30:27 AM
# Replies: 14
I thought I was safe, because I was running the latest (3106) McAfee virus scanner & dat file. But somehow, I got the Windows95.CIH virus.
Apparently it's been alive on my system for quite some time: EVERY exe file was infected, even some inside .ZIP archives.
McAfee couldn't see it, much less kill it, so I switched virus scanners. AVP found & deactivated it, and (surprise) is cheaper, faster, and detects more viruses (so they say). It spent 35 minutes scanning all 13 gigabytes of storage I've got, and removed every trace of CIH. As a bonus, it also found some Win.Tentacle viruses inside a .ZIP file and removed some Word macro viruses McAfee missed.
Only $24 to buy it, free to evaluate for 90 days. Highly recommended. I nuked McAfee from my computers yesterday.
AntiViral Toolkit Pro: www.avp.ch
Response #1
By: Shadow Sprite
Date: 8/16/98 10:59:04 AM
McAfee acutally rates about 12th in the Anti-Viral race. #1 is, of course, Invircible. Invircible, rather than working off a list, acutally looks for things virusi do - which means you only have to update if a new type of virus comes out (like the concept virus). Best of all, it's not a TSR! That means, not only does it not take up valuable memory, but it hasn't been bought out by Wizards of the Coast and doesn't make AD&D!!! :)
Just in case you're curious, there's a version which will scan & detect, but not clean available at www.invircible.com.
Response #2
By: sooz
Date: 8/17/98 11:35:02 PM
I d/l the trial version, Ralf. It was kewl. Told me I had 1 corrupted file, but no virii. Yay.
Response #3
By: rorschach
Date: 8/22/98 4:44:38 PM
wouldn't it be something if computer viruses were like live viruses and constantly mutating themselves? you know, take a section of code and swap it with a section of code from another virus, or even a valid software app. man what a mess we'd have THEN..... sort of like what we have with REAL viruses......
Response #4
By: Ralf
Date: 8/23/98 10:58:09 AM
Oh you just wait boyo... them days are coming.
Shadow: You're dead-on about McAfee. I bought their stuff a few years back and never kept up with what the competition was doing. I guess I am a model of consumer loyalty.
Invircible sounds cool. I just visited their site and read all the glowing reviews. One thing that attracted me to AVP was its trojan detection features. AVP notices things like code that formats harddrives, deletes system files, or accesses the boot sector. Does Invircible do that? If I read the literature right, Invircible would detect those things after they happen. Is that how it works?
Response #5
By: Gowan McGland
Date: 8/23/98 12:18:30 PM
Polymorphic viruses don't take parts of other viruses or anything, but they DO change the way they look and act over time.
I used AVP as well and it found viruses I had that neither McAfee or Norton found. Yes, that's right, boys and girls, I run BOTH.
Response #6
By: sooz
Date: 8/23/98 3:38:28 PM
Oooooooooo. And just to let you know that AVP isn't making up viruses on every system it scans just so it'll look really good (which is what an uneducated stooge like me would begin to think), it didn't find a single virus on my 'puter.
Response #7
By: Shadow Sprite
Date: 8/24/98 5:22:12 AM
Well, yes, Invircible would catch the changes AFTER they've happened, but it takes a "snapshot" of each program, so it could simply repair the damage done as soon as it sees it.
Response #8
By: rorschach
Date: 8/24/98 12:01:43 PM
only thing that kinda scares me about AVP is that is from eastern europe and we all know about the computer programmers over there that are paid less than your average janitor, when they are paid at all.... tends to sour the persona a bit. by extention of that logic sooz, of COURSE it wouldn't find anything IT installed... it knows all ABOUT it....
Response #9
By: Ralf
Date: 8/25/98 5:20:09 PM
Pesky Communists.
We beat them fair'n'square in the Cold War, and now they're installed on my desktop.
("Attention capitalist pig! You have virus! Beeg nasty virus that requires much rubles to correct. Please send American dollars to...")
Response #10
By: The Sorcerer
Date: 8/25/98 10:32:35 PM
I've often thought it would be fun to write a "virus like" program that doesn't do anything but would occasionally pop up a message saying "Please send money to ..." for about three weeks and see if anyone actually sends any money.
Sorc'(Rev)
Response #11
By: rorschach
Date: 8/26/98 1:12:35 PM
I thought that was called shareware.....
Response #12
By: Ralf
Date: 8/26/98 5:31:40 PM
My goal is to write some shareware, but instead of a measly $20 or whatever, ask for $10 million to register it.
Then, if only ONE GUY registers my software, I'm set for life.
Response #13
By: The Sorcerer
Date: 8/26/98 7:21:12 PM
Yeah, but the only guy geeky enough to potentially pay the $10 million is Bill Gates. But he'd just copy it, embed calls to Internet Explorer, and then sue you for $40 million for copyright infringement.
Sorc'(Rev)
Response #14
By: Da Sissop
Date: 8/27/98 12:41:33 PM
How "binding" are shareware license agreements? Like, if it says you have 30 days to evaluate the software, and on day 31 you owe me a HUNDRED MEELION DOLLARS, er, can I sue you if you don't pay? I think I may have just found my niche in the I.T. industry!
You must read and accept the following license agreement before proceeding:
All work and no play makes jack a dull boy All work and no play makes jack a dull boy All work and no play makes jack a dull boy All work and no play makes jack a dull boy All work and no play makes jack a dull boy All work and no play makes jack a dull boy YOU OWE ME A HUNDRED MEELION DOLLARZ All work and no play makes jack a dull boy All work and no play makes jack a dull boy All work and no play makes jack a dull boy