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By: Da Sissop
Date: 7/29/00 4:00:09 PM
# Replies: 12
Oh my goodness, where to begin?
It's the "Feel Good Or Die" movie of the summer. But don't get the wrong impression-- that's not necessarily an endorsement.
Pros: Mel Gibson's charisma. Some cool battlefield imagery. People's heads and legs getting ripped off by bowling balls.
Cons: Almost every scene is completely and utterly predictable. The sappy moments are forced, milked to excess, and accentuated with sappy music.
Oh, and one more Pro: this would be a GREAT movie to see with Tom Servo, Crow, and either Joel or Mike.
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The Americans win.
Response #1
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 7/29/00 9:46:10 PM
Braveheart in the new world.
Whatever.
Response #2
By: Ralf
Date: 7/30/00 10:09:22 PM
Just got back from a weekend in San Antonio visiting with friends from London. They report that The Patriot is reviled in the UK because of it's somewhat unbalanced depiction of the British. Apparently the Red Coats all come off as incompetent and evil.
Some of their friends back home are VERY mad.
American Revolution II: This Time It's Personal
Response #3
By: Da Sissop
Date: 7/31/00 7:13:47 AM
Well they *were* the enemy.
They don't like it, let 'em make their own Mel Gibson movie.
Response #4
By: Gowan McGland
Date: 7/31/00 7:42:11 AM
Oh, yes, the British are quite angry with our film community.
The history in both The Patriot and U571 is completely inaccurate. Basically, Hollywood took a true event, scooped out the insides and replaced it with patented Hollywod nougat.
In The Patriot, they make the redcoats' leaders look vicious and evil and mean and the redcoats themselves something akin to sheep following the flock to slaughter innocent American women and children.
In U571, the Americans board a Nazi submarine and steal an Enigma box that'll end up winning the war for the good guys. In real life, it was the Brits who found the first Enigma device and figured out how to use it and supplied the intelligence we needed to win the war.
There's another film that they're up in arms about, too, but it escapes me currently. Pretty much they're PO'ed because they're not getting the credit they're due and figure people will see this stuff in the movies and just assume it's historically accurate.
Response #5
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 7/31/00 5:48:47 PM
Yeah, Americans are bastards, but the rest of the world loves us for it. No, really.
Response #6
By: Da Sissop
Date: 7/31/00 8:05:40 PM
Well seriously, we're running out of ideological enemies these days. Hollywood was used to having the Soviets as our de facto arch enemy for so long, we've got the formula ingrained in our culture... now Hollywood is befuddled by political correctness and has no *clue* how to serve us up our villians.
The Swiss. Our next war/terrorist movie should feature the Swiss as the villians.
Response #7
By: Roxanne
Date: 7/31/00 8:10:20 PM
Yeah, let some of these other whiney countries try being the "Great Satan" for awhile and see how hard it is!
Response #8
By: Zane T. Dark
Date: 8/1/00 11:25:54 AM
Sooner or later, they'd begin to understand America's continuous struggle NOT to just 'club 'em in the head and leave 'em in the alley for BFI' when it comes to global poly-ticks. Not that we don't do that, but we tend not to do it enough to the people who really need it.
Response #9
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 8/1/00 7:24:27 PM
I think the next Hollywood enemy will be US politicians. We'll see movies about the militia-folks assembling a super-secret elite strike force which will rescue the scientist and his captive daughter from the evil clutches of the insane Undersecretary Of The Ways And Means Committee!
Response #10
By: Ralf
Date: 8/2/00 5:52:46 AM
Isn't it about time for the Nazis to make a comeback?
Response #11
By: Da Sissop
Date: 8/2/00 7:28:31 AM
(insert obligatory Republican National Convention joke here)
Response #12
By: WitchHazel
Date: 10/4/01 12:11:22 PM
My husband calls The Patriot "Lethal Weapon 1776", which pretty much sums up MY impression of the movie. (No "Mel" movie will ever outdo "Braveheart".)