|  |
|
| |
By: Roxanne
Date: 4/7/01 6:22:17 AM
# Replies: 17
Just saw this on video last night. It's based on a true story.
I can't say that it was a bad movie, but I suspect there's something subliminal going on there or something.
It is interesting to watch when a non-politically correct time in history is presented in a now politically correct movie. For example:
In 1971, everybody smoked. Yes, *everybody*. Heck, even the Disney movies of the early 70's had smoking (watch "Freaky Friday" with Jodie Foster if you don't believe me). So why was there no smoking at all in this movie? Because they are football players and athletes didn't smoke? Please! Teachers smoked, coaches smoked, high school students smoked, blacks smoked, whites smoked, we *all* smoked back then!
What else? Okay, at the risk of being inflamatory, I have to use the dreaded "n-word", but let's get real, people. Back then, the blacks did not call each other "bro" (as the movie portrayed); they called each other "nigger" and used it with the casual ease of "bro". Yes they did! Remember Richard Pryor? His comedy album and movie of the day was "That Nigger's Crazy". I went to school with black kids who called each other that all the time. Want to hear something really scandalous?? If a white person was close enough friends with a black person or group of black people, then the white person could use the word too...and it was considered okay! Blows your mind, doesn't it?
All right, I know that Disney in 2000 wouldn't be able to be historically accurate to that extreme. But I just wonder what people are going to really know about the 60's, 70's, and 80's when modern movies and media re-write their stories so as not to offend. It's a personal issue for me since I grew up and lived during those decades and I remember the way it really was. It makes me wonder what the 30's, 40's, and 50's (etc.) were *really* like...
Response #1
By: sooz
Date: 4/7/01 10:57:31 AM
The "N" word debate's been going on for a while... "why is it okay for blacks, but not for whites to use?"
The N-word is alive and well in many black cultures. Richie had a rap group in the studio one day, and some guys were getting irritated with each other. One guy said "LOOK... I've got more experience than ANY of you niggers up in here... 'cept maybe Richie." Richie's mostly Messican, and was quite flattered to be included as one of the "niggers up in here." It just meant "guys", I guess.
"Nigger, PLEASE" is a phrase I hear a LOT, with all colors.
I dunno, I think the N-word is undergoing another transformation. Again.
Response #2
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 4/7/01 8:08:22 PM
'Nigger' doesn't mean nigger. It means nigger.
Response #3
By: Da Sissop
Date: 4/8/01 10:00:57 AM
There probably *is* a distinction between "nigger" and "nigga".
N.W.A. stood for "Niggaz With Attitude."
I mean, any time you can actually HEAR the "ER" sound, it's probably being used as a slur.
Response #4
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 4/11/01 9:30:55 AM
My opionion is that a word has no power than you, the person on the recieving end of it, gives it.
Response #5
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 4/11/01 8:54:16 PM
Only a dipshit motherfucker would think something as stupid as that.
Response #6
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 4/12/01 6:13:10 AM
HTB:
"Only a dipshit motherfucker would think something as stupid as that."
And only a pansy ass heart bleeder would believe otherwise. That, and your desire to GIVE the other person that power.
Gee, is someone else's opinion what defines you totally?
Response #7
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 4/12/01 4:20:38 PM
Fuck you, ya white trash gee-golly cow-tippin' TEXAN!
Response #8
By: Emil Lang
Date: 4/13/01 9:59:13 AM
Byte me you latte suckin' , flannel wearing, Seatlite.
Response #9
By: Xtopher
Date: 4/13/01 11:41:22 AM
*ahem*
Emil, I believe the phrase you're looking for is as such:
"You white-hearted right-hand-path tree huggin' dirt munchin' clove smokin' birkenstock wearin' WTO protestin' commie hippie faggot!"
I believe I quoted my source right... let me check my notes..
Response #10
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 4/13/01 11:54:12 AM
There are three 't's in 'Seattlite.' And you'd suck latte, too, if you'd experienced as much gray weather as I have in the past five months. So nyah.
Anyway, we've had the whither-name-calling thread a few times already. I still call him Shrub, and I don't call black people 'nigger' cuz I know what the word really means, having looked it up in the dictionary.
Response #11
By: Roxanne
Date: 4/14/01 1:47:43 PM
I couldn't find that word in my dictionary...
Response #12
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 4/15/01 10:36:43 PM
Homer, the fomerly known as Texan the Brave:
"Fuck you, ya white trash gee-golly cow-tippin' TEXAN!"
Ha!
Guess you took that going gay idea to heart didn't ya?
X-man:
""You white-hearted right-hand-path tree huggin' dirt munchin' clove smokin' birkenstock wearin' WTO protestin' commie hippie faggot!""
Hey X, that's a great, general all purpose sentence. Mind if I use that?
Rox:
"I couldn't find that word (nigger)in my dictionary..."
From the Merriam-Webster Web site http://www.m-w.com
One entry found for nigger.
Main Entry: nig·ger
Pronunciation: 'ni-g&r
Function: noun
Etymology: alteration of earlier neger, from Middle French negre, from Spanish or Portuguese negro, from negro black, from Latin niger
Date: 1700
1 usually offensive, see usage paragraph below : a black person
2 usually offensive, see usage paragraph below : a member of any dark-skinned race
3 : a member of a socially disadvantaged class of persons
usage Nigger in senses 1 and 2 can be found in the works of such writers of the past as Joseph Conrad, Mark Twain, and Charles Dickens, but it now ranks as perhaps the most offensive and inflammatory racial slur in English. Its use by and among blacks is not always intended or taken as offensive, but, except in sense 3, it is otherwise a word expressive of racial hatred and bigotry.
Response #13
By: Xtopher
Date: 4/16/01 6:19:05 AM
Feel free to use the phrase, Captain, although the original was "white-hearted right-hand-path tree-huggin dirt-munchin birkenstock-wearin Wicca faggot!" and was uttered by a Southern Baptist friend of mine as the capstone of a regular series of exchanges between the two of us. It was at this point that I conceded defeat, and had to buy the drinks that night.
Response #14
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 4/16/01 1:40:00 PM
Spaz, what do you mean *going* gay?
Response #15
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 4/16/01 9:09:46 PM
HTB:
"Spaz, what do you mean *going* gay?"
Joke Homer, JOKE!
Response #16
By: sooz
Date: 4/17/01 7:39:52 AM
I was gonna ask the same thing, Homer, but thought I had Spas-bashed enough that day.
"Going gay" as a joke is about as funny as a nigger joke. It doesn't make sense, and there's no punchline.
I think I'll start a new thread about gayness, indeed.
Response #17
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 4/20/01 10:00:00 PM
Sooz:
""Going gay" as a joke is about as funny as a nigger joke. It doesn't make sense, and there's no punchline.
I think I'll start a new thread about gayness, indeed."
That was kind of the point Sooz.
Since the discussion was about the absecene of such acknowlegements in the movie.
Sheesh you people are getting sensitive!