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By: WitchHazel
Date: 9/12/01 4:09:36 PM
# Replies: 101
Let me ask you this... If you had been on one of those hijacked planes yesterday, and they let you make a call on your cell phone (as they aparently did)... tell me... WHO THE HELL WOULD YOU CALL in the last few minutes of your life? I can't imagine having to make such a call. It's a horrifying thought.
I am shocked, sad, pissed, worried, numb. How're YOU all feeling?
Response #1
By: Da Sissop
Date: 9/12/01 6:56:36 PM
I'd finally go ahead and try out one of those phone sex lines.
No, seriously, I suppose I'd probably call my brother and his family. Tell 'em I love 'em and apologize for all the credit card debt I would be leaving behind.
The stories of the final phone calls were so incredible, and so heartbreaking.
Yup, I'm shocked, sad, pissed and numb. As far as worry, I guess my biggest fear is the racist backlash. The indignation and outrage of the ignorant, misdirected at anyone who looks or sounds the least bit Arabic. I've already seen news reports of mosques being shot up.
I'm not worried about World War III or any of the more outlandish fears circulating. Despite the fiery rhetoric of some of our political leaders, I'd be completely dumbfounded if we actually ended up at "war" with anyone. What I'd really expect to transpire is something like this: We determine that Osama bin Laden is responsible, we've got the support of a mighty impressive coalition of nations, we inform the Taliban that we're going to strike him, and they can either cooperate and help to turn him over or fend for themselves in regards to the potential collateral damage.
I have high hopes that this *can* be resolved with little or no pyrotechnics.
Response #2
By: WitchHazel
Date: 9/13/01 12:02:59 PM
MY *worry* is also toward the inevitable growing racism against Arab-Americans (or just ALL arabs, in general -- American, or otherwise). This would be SO wrong and dispicable, but it's already happening. I'm appalled. But we cannot control every gun-toting, ignorant (or not-so-ignorant), mullet-wearing hate monger.
(Okay, pardon the *mullet* reference, if any of you Nuns wear one. :-) That was a bad generalization to say that I think a lot of our racism comes from white-supremist rednecks.)
I lived in Germany for several years where every single major or minor act of *possible* racism is analyzed under the World's microscope. It wasn't, however, until I returned to the United States did I actually see racism and hate-violence in a much, much worse stage than anything I'd seen or felt in Europe. This shocked me. This is America, for crissakes.
However, in my own personal world, I've seen great progress in America in the last decade, since I've returned. I would hate to see us digress again, but fear that this is completely inevitable, barring a miracle.
My other big FEAR is that the United States will "strike back" and more innocent people will be killed. While I am all for assasination of whoever did this, I am NOT (and will not ever BE) supportive of any act(s) of violence that takes another SINGLE innocent human life.
My last fear is that my previous feeling of relative security will never return. Where I once believed I could walk down the street in relative peace and security, I now believe that anything can happen to anyone, anywhere, anytime. If this feeling persists, then this completely changes MY WORLD, as I knew it. If that is the case, then I fear other people, as well as myself, may learn to react more out of perhaps FEAR and INSTINCT rather than necessarily out of 100% pure COMMON SENSE. I *hope* this isn't the case, but I can't help but wonder what lies ahead, and how this will change us, ultimately.
Response #3
By: Capt. Spastic
Date: 9/13/01 4:49:59 PM
I'd call Dominoes.
Let's seem them make THAT delivery in 30 minutes.
Then I'd will the pizza to my surviving relatives.
Response #4
By: rorschach
Date: 9/14/01 10:30:41 AM
the local air national guard office to tell them to get an f16 in the air with sidewinders. if I'm gonna buy the farm, I'll be damned if I'm gonna let them take out 5000 people with me. There is evidence that the people on board the plane that crashed in PA decided to try to overpower the hijackers because they found out what thier compadre's did in NY.... and decided that if they were going to buy the farm they would do it AT a farm instead of the white house..... hell, from thier perspective they might just get lucky and be able to kill the bastards and have a controlled crash instead of a corkscrew.
Response #5
By: WitchHazel
Date: 9/14/01 11:11:08 AM
This was a very heroic thing. I would like to HOPE that I would have tried to do the same thing in that circumstance. There is no use being "paralyzed" by attackers. I would most definitely try to fight back. (I don't go ever down without kicking and screaming and yelling obscenities.) :-)
Response #6
By: bob
Date: 9/16/01 10:09:59 AM
my fear is that whether we like it or not this war will continue. there are more potential terroists then we could possibly stop. all those little palestinians dancing in the streets after the attack are probably the next wave.
in addition, i hate to be so up lifting, but they will always be able to find a weakness and expoit it. there is no way that we can protect ourselves from people willing to die for what they believe in. however, does that mean that i am going to change the way that i live my life? no...i will just go by the law of statistics, the odds of someone i know being a victim of terrorism are pretty small.
as for who i would call, i really have no idea right now. probably my parents, but i am at a loss for that top of the list person.
Response #7
By: sooz
Date: 9/16/01 1:35:10 PM
Just for the record, it's been shown that those clips of Palestinians dancing in the streets were taken in *1991*. It was night time there when the towers came down, yet the video shows people celebrating in broad daylight...
Isn't our media just the finest thing?
Response #8
By: WitchHazel
Date: 9/16/01 4:20:28 PM
Yeah, I really don't believe that Palestian footage, even though OF COURSE there were people in the world who applauded what happened. However, I believe there is some crazy shit going on between the government and the media, and what WE, the average citizens, are seeing (a Wag-the-Dog type thing). And I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I think there is something strange behind all of that footage. Don't ask me why. Just an instinct thing.
Response #9
By: Da Sissop
Date: 9/16/01 7:33:06 PM
I dunno if CNN maybe did show some stock footage, but a search of Yahoo news photos reveals a series of Reuters photos of Palestinians dancing in the streets on September 11th. keywords: palestinians terrorist new york -"Sept 12" (results may vary as days go by)
Response #10
By: WitchHazel
Date: 9/18/01 5:35:20 PM
Yeah, I'm sure there WERE some people whoopin' it up, but I think that those few people's reactions were exploited in the news last week. Personally, I doubt there was a huge jubilation or anything. Maybe I'm naive. Doesn't EVERYONE love America? ;-)
Response #11
By: bob
Date: 9/19/01 10:56:17 AM
damn, the media is lieing to us...alright, who is going with me to new york, i have to see this for myself
Response #12
By: sooz
Date: 9/19/01 11:12:07 AM
Richie read my monthly horoscope to me out of my Mode magazine last night. "Hey Susan... it says "September 11 -12: These are the best days for travel. Go, have a great time! See the world!"
Uh.
Response #13
By: Gowan McGland
Date: 9/19/01 11:21:58 AM
Go here:
http://www.snopes2.com/inboxer/outrage/cnn.htm
Response #14
By: bob
Date: 9/20/01 12:32:32 PM
sooz: well, i guess the stars are tired of seeing you around...oh, was that mean?
Response #15
By: WitchHazel
Date: 9/20/01 2:10:13 PM
Low blow, Bob!
Response #16
By: bob
Date: 9/24/01 10:37:30 AM
i didn't say i was sick of her....just the stars are...
Response #17
By: sooz
Date: 9/24/01 12:38:13 PM
Bob adores me. He couldn't possibly be sick of me.
Response #18
By: WitchHazel
Date: 9/24/01 2:09:54 PM
Bob. Is this true?
Response #19
By: Roxanne
Date: 9/25/01 10:53:28 AM
Thank you, Gowan for bringing snopes.com into this! I have been enjoying seeing the new "urban legends" cropping up from the terrorist attacks. People will believe anything.
Response #20
By: bob
Date: 9/25/01 4:05:47 PM
adores is such a strong word...it is hard for me to have feelings for anyone sense so much of my adoration is turned towards myself. leaves very little to spread around. (anyone buying this you think?)
Response #21
By: WitchHazel
Date: 9/27/01 10:28:46 AM
Yep. I'm buying it.
Response #22
By: rorschach
Date: 10/2/01 1:02:56 PM
I'm hoarding my money right now.. not buying anything....
Response #23
By: sooz
Date: 10/2/01 2:47:24 PM
Hoarding money? For what purpose? TO make sure the stock market crashes?
Response #24
By: WitchHazel
Date: 10/3/01 11:44:12 AM
Money won't do you any good where you are going. ;-)
Response #25
By: sooz
Date: 10/4/01 6:50:50 AM
Ok, I've read that comment twice now, Hazel, and I'm still laughing. Damn.
Response #26
By: WitchHazel
Date: 10/4/01 11:47:06 AM
That makes two of us, Sooz. :-)
Response #27
By: rorschach
Date: 10/7/01 9:19:31 AM
actually the little woman just went back to work after having our second kiddo and money hasn't been all that plentiful of late anyway.....
and where exactly am I going ANYWAY? just cuz' I'm told to go to hell on a daily basis does not mean I plan on taking everyone's advice....
Response #28
By: bob
Date: 10/7/01 11:10:46 AM
wow, little woman and kiddo in the same sentance.
Response #29
By: sooz
Date: 10/7/01 11:55:31 AM
Ror's not really from this decade. Or the last. I'm not sure where Scotty beamed him in from.
Response #30
By: bob
Date: 10/8/01 1:04:33 AM
hahahaha, that's funny, when i saw it the first thing that came to my mind was "DAD????????"
Response #31
By: WitchHazel
Date: 10/8/01 8:35:27 AM
Hee!
Response #32
By: rorschach
Date: 10/10/01 10:03:58 AM
yep, 'fraid so.... twice now no less..... Two girls, one seven, one 5 1/2 months.... NEITHER one NEARLY as scary looking as me....and both are very happy and easy going. Either I got all the recessive genes and they didn't pass on, or I need to have a discussion with the 'ol Lady about those funny tasting white pop-sicles in the freezer....
and I'm not so much from the wrong time so much as out of place AND out of time....
Response #33
By: sooz
Date: 10/10/01 11:43:29 AM
She's gone from the "little woman" to the "'ol Lady".
Kill me now.
Response #34
By: bob
Date: 10/10/01 3:24:40 PM
i guess she ages faster than most, or put on some weight
Response #35
By: sooz
Date: 10/10/01 5:07:55 PM
Bob: Ror* misunderstood your "dad" comment, I'm thinkin'.
Response #36
By: WitchHazel
Date: 10/10/01 5:30:18 PM
White popsicles? Eeewww!
Response #37
By: Da Sissop
Date: 10/10/01 6:30:09 PM
White popsicles? BLahaha!
Response #38
By: Seventh of Seven
Date: 10/11/01 7:42:29 AM
get it? POP-sicles!
oh, that's rich.
Response #39
By: WitchHazel
Date: 10/11/01 10:15:18 AM
Naaaaaaaaaasty!
Response #40
By: bob
Date: 10/11/01 10:54:38 AM
sooz: guess so, didn't even catch that he was responding to me....
Response #41
By: sooz
Date: 10/11/01 11:11:55 AM
I shake my head in disgust at all of you. (Mostly because I can't think of anything clever to add.)
Response #42
By: rorschach
Date: 10/11/01 1:00:36 PM
I'm used to being disgusting, but was there a turn in the conversation I missed? or was it a private thing between bob and sooz?
Response #43
By: sooz
Date: 10/11/01 7:04:20 PM
I'm not acquainted with Bob's private thing. I'm a married woman, for God's sake.
Response #44
By: bob
Date: 10/12/01 2:12:23 PM
ror, the "dad reference was that my dad uses words like "kiddio, and little woman" so i was surprised that my dad was on nuns, see....
Response #45
By: WitchHazel
Date: 10/15/01 1:37:43 PM
Hello, Bob's dad!
Response #46
By: bob
Date: 10/15/01 11:45:07 PM
witch: how did you know he arrived in town today? that is pretty scary
Response #47
By: sooz
Date: 10/16/01 2:32:13 AM
She installed a video camera on the side of my house, so she can spy on you, Bob. I've been meaning to tell you about that.
Response #48
By: WitchHazel
Date: 10/16/01 10:44:33 AM
Dammit, Sooz. You told!!!
Response #49
By: bob
Date: 10/16/01 11:21:50 AM
well, i guess i wont be mowing my yard nekkid anymore
Response #50
By: Roxanne
Date: 10/16/01 2:57:43 PM
Seems to me that nekkid lawn mowing would have far more serious potential for injury than nekkid shower shaving!
Response #51
By: WitchHazel
Date: 10/16/01 3:39:53 PM
No shit! I was just thinking the same thing -- and not just injury to HIMSELF, but injury to innocent passersby! I mean, can you imagine the increase of car accidents by all of the lonely housewives driving through Bob's neighborhood on "mowing day"???!!!
Response #52
By: sooz
Date: 10/16/01 9:25:34 PM
I typed a medical report about a guy that cut off his finger. Seems he wanted to check the blade on the lawn mower, but forgot to turn it off.
Response #53
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 10/17/01 12:55:48 AM
Oops.
At least it wasn't his green thumb.
Response #54
By: sooz
Date: 10/17/01 4:45:49 AM
(that same coffee was still in my mouth, dang it...)
Response #55
By: Roxanne
Date: 10/17/01 9:58:31 AM
sooz: Here's a tip, *swallow* your coffee. It works much better than just squishing it around in your mouth.
;)
Response #56
By: sooz
Date: 10/17/01 10:27:38 AM
I was trying to savor the bouquet, and, and...
Response #57
By: WitchHazel
Date: 10/17/01 11:25:50 AM
Oh, just do what *I* do, and spew coffee on your monitor while laughing.
Response #58
By: bob
Date: 10/17/01 1:39:30 PM
ok, so when i mow i am not entirely naked. i do where my tennis shows. unfortunately, my tows are the only things low enough to get cut. hahaha
susan, is that a woman telling you to swallow? i thought only men said that.
Response #59
By: sooz
Date: 10/17/01 7:45:59 PM
One woman said to swallow, one said to spit. It's a toss-up.
(You have tennis shows that go on your tows?)
Response #60
By: WitchHazel
Date: 10/17/01 10:59:05 PM
Damn, I'm laughing so hard at "tennis shows" that I'd spew if I had coffee (or something else) to SPIT right now.
Response #61
By: Roxanne
Date: 10/18/01 11:50:58 AM
I thought "tennis shows" is what you get when the players forget to wear underwear!
I was taught that it's rude to spit.
Response #62
By: WitchHazel
Date: 10/18/01 12:27:24 PM
AHAHAHAHAHA!
Response #63
By: bob
Date: 10/18/01 2:16:06 PM
hahahahaha
Response #64
By: Seventh of Seven
Date: 10/18/01 2:45:58 PM
i thought that was called "break point."
Response #65
By: Seventh of Seven
Date: 10/19/01 5:40:35 AM
hahahaha! no one thought THAT was funny??
Response #66
By: WitchHazel
Date: 10/19/01 10:15:01 AM
Okay. I didn't get it. Explain.
Response #67
By: bob
Date: 10/19/01 10:35:42 AM
sorry sos, it was nothing personal. it was clever
Response #68
By: WitchHazel
Date: 10/19/01 10:40:12 AM
I figured that. (But not clever ENOUGH.)
Response #69
By: sooz
Date: 10/19/01 11:12:47 AM
I didn't get it either.
Response #70
By: bob
Date: 10/19/01 12:42:00 PM
sorry sos, apparently you and i are the only warped minds here
Response #71
By: WitchHazel
Date: 10/19/01 1:15:25 PM
I take great offense to that statement.
Response #72
By: sooz
Date: 10/19/01 1:34:38 PM
I'd probably be offended, if I knew what the heck was going on.
Response #73
By: WitchHazel
Date: 10/19/01 1:47:34 PM
Yes, you would, Sooz.
Response #74
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 10/20/01 1:49:06 AM
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Response #75
By: bob
Date: 10/20/01 10:43:19 AM
well, i have heard that they have really good pot in seatle?
Response #76
By: WitchHazel
Date: 10/20/01 1:29:23 PM
Well, that's what I've HEARD.
But what the hell does that have to do with coffee, man?
Response #77
By: Homer The Brave
Date: 10/20/01 3:19:09 PM
Yes, Seattle is a good place to acquire certain illicit substances which shall remain nameless. It is important to understand that a whole different set of strategies need to be applied to prevent illicit substance-related burns and equipment damage.
Response #78
By: WitchHazel
Date: 10/20/01 3:29:57 PM
See? Seattle IS perfect.
Response #79
By: WitchHazel
Date: 1/2/02 11:21:16 PM
Do you know that it's warmer in Seattle than it is in Austin/Houston? I was walking around this evening without a coat, while you folks are getting thundersnow (new word courtesy of Fang).
Something just ain't right about that.
Response #80
By: sooz
Date: 1/3/02 6:09:30 AM
I love "thundersnow."
Response #81
By: Gowan McGland
Date: 1/3/02 9:29:44 AM
Yeah, Sean Connery was the best in Thundersnow.
Response #82
By: WitchHazel
Date: 1/3/02 10:18:12 AM
Wait. I thought that was Pierce Brosnan?
Response #83
By: sooz
Date: 1/3/02 9:05:17 PM
Everyone knows it was Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer, George Clooney... no, wait. That was "BATTHUNDER."
Response #84
By: WitchHazel
Date: 1/3/02 10:59:22 PM
Right. Because George Clooney wouldn't know THUNDERSNOW if a snow ball flew up his ass and it thundered at the EXACT SAME TIME.
Response #85
By: Seventh of Seven
Date: 1/4/02 11:14:16 AM
tee hee i did that at dinner last night
Response #86
By: WitchHazel
Date: 1/7/02 10:33:05 AM
You THUNDERSNOWED at dinner last night?
Response #87
By: Da Sissop
Date: 1/8/02 8:51:03 PM
We never got any thundersnow here. They retracted their weather advisory about midday. We got a little bit of lame-ass sleet, but not enough to cause any hazardous road conditions or prevent us from going to work the next day. Grumble mumble.
Response #88
By: Gowan McGland
Date: 1/9/02 10:12:18 AM
Those meteorologists have a hail of a nerve to tell us it's gonna thundersnow.
Response #89
By: Seventh of Seven
Date: 1/9/02 10:23:37 AM
nothing on this side of the world either (DC). seems like everything between houston and DC got the fun. where are you roxy?
Response #90
By: rorschach
Date: 1/9/02 10:51:47 AM
RELATED SUBJECT:
Is it me, or do the weather forecasts seem to actually be getting less accurate? or is it that the older forecasters, knowing that they would be lucky to get any of it right at all, intentionally sandbagged the forecasts to keep from looking so lame whereas the modern forecasters either havent figured out how to CYA, or they just don't care anymore?
I don't recall the weather guys blowing it nearly as bad say 15 years ago.... but they probably didn't try to predict what was going to happen at 3:05 pm of the 22'd of december when it is still january either.....
Response #91
By: bob
Date: 1/9/02 12:03:49 PM
i agree, it seams that they are getting worse and worse. obviously the seven day forecasts are a terrible idea....they never pan out, except in texas summertime (huh, go figure it is going to be hot and dry, again). but these days, they can't even seem to get it close for the next day.
Response #92
By: sooz
Date: 1/9/02 1:50:45 PM
Ror* and Bob: You two sound like the two old guys on the Muppets in the back of the theater. "Why, back in MY day, weathermen were better than this. In this day and age, these young whippersnapper weather guys..."
Response #93
By: Roxanne
Date: 1/9/02 8:11:22 PM
SoS: I'm here! Just had to dig myself out from under the *dusting* of snow we got Sunday morning that was melted by 9:30 a.m.! There wasn't enough snow to make a snowman's weiner much less a whole snowman!
Response #94
By: sooz
Date: 1/10/02 8:47:07 AM
I KNEW I'd been forgetting to add something something on my snowmen.
Response #95
By: Gowan McGland
Date: 1/10/02 11:17:16 AM
corn cob PIPE. It's a PIPE, ladies..
Response #96
By: rorschach
Date: 1/10/02 12:03:02 PM
pipes work too.....
Response #97
By: bob
Date: 1/10/02 5:43:18 PM
i am being called an old guy from someone 10 years older than me, that is always nice to know. of course, maybe it is true since my back is so messed up i can't even turn my head to see the tv from my computer.
Response #98
By: sooz
Date: 1/11/02 6:44:45 AM
You're gonna look cute in traction.
Response #99
By: rorschach
Date: 1/14/02 10:53:44 AM
look out bob, I think she's into that sort of thing....
Response #100
By: WitchHazel
Date: 1/14/02 1:13:19 PM
Hey. You can SMOKE pipes. I'm all for that.
Response #101
By: bob
Date: 1/14/02 2:01:23 PM
ror: damn, at my age, it is hard to focus. plus, i can't exactly get away when i am in traction, i guess i am s.o.l.